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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I bought 2 small lots of nickels on ebay last week, and this coin was in the second lot. Its been struck at least twice, and maybe more than that. I've spent a lot of time studying it, and continue to find things that I have not been able to get to show up in pictures. For the really close shots, I am using a hand held lense from an old ultrafiche parts reader ... and a Kodak easy share camera. Its not hard to imagine how difficult that makes it. The disturbance running laterally across the obverse of the coin is the remnants of Monticello. Close scrutiny reveals window openings and other architectural details. In the one close up I did manage to get, you can see the letter "F" of the word "FIVE" in the center of the image. That's from the reverse of the coin. I don't see this kind of error discussed much, but the problem that caused the malfunction seems to have reached its zenith in the mid 1950s. I theorize that the presses were just getting tired from the unprecented mintages of coinage during the war years. I have 2 Franklin half dollars enroute that are also flip over multiple strike coins. If these pictures aren't revealing enough in their forum friendly compressed format, I'll publish them to my imgur account full size. Chance    |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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So far it looks like a normal nickel from what I can see.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
Here is a doubled struck cent.   I have more images if anyone want to see more? |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1372 Posts |
Richard,
If you'd like to discuss your coin, please start your own thread, rather than hijack this one. If you don't see it, its because you're not looking close enough. I was trying to upload the fullsize images to imgur, but the thing froze up and I had to restart firefox.
Chance
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would love to see more coop!  I think that is a small lam flake. I don't think this is a double strike. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1372 Posts |
The site doesn't allow imgur images, an I'm not signing up with another service.
You can open the image in aseparate browser window and press the "+" key while holding the "control" key. Each click increases the image size by 25%
Chance
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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If you'd like to discuss your coin, please start your own thread, rather than hijack this one. He is a moderator, by the way, and he knows what he's doing. He posted that so you could have something to compare a real doubled flipped struck whatever with yours. I do not believe that you have a doubled struck flipped what ever. It would be more pronounced. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I know he doesn't need anybody to defend him ,but coop is one of the best in the community with the best set of pictures for us that are not at that level to learn from. (No , I do not know him)
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If you don't see it, its because you're not looking close enough. Then I'm not looking close enough either, except at the confrontational language you're choosing to use. He posted that because you don't seem to know what a flipover is, if you think that Nickel is one. |
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Canada
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To be fair I downloaded the images and zoomed them in but I can't see any evidence of a double strike either. just my opinion
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Let's stop this before we get the thread locked.
I can see what appears to be a faint outline of Jefferson's face between the words 'Monticello' and 'Five Cents' on the reverse, as well as part of the bust in the upper right field, if the coin is viewed at a normal angle. To be fair though, it is so faint that it took a bit of looking around to find it. I don't know if this is a multiple strike or not, maybe it's just a bit of wishful thinking on my part, but take a look in those regions and tell us what you see, everyone.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I see some surface scratches, a few scuffs, and some toning. I don't see a double strike.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Sorry for the terse rebuttal to Coop's post ... but his response totally blew any real discussion of this coin completely out of the water.
Dave ... With all due respect, I do know what I'm talking about on this one, and while I could spend a bunch of time making arrows and captions ... it's simply not worth it.
I've spent hours looking at this piece. There are things that will never photograph because the ensuing strike so completely obliterates any of the legends and devices from the first strike. especially in the fields.
That said, the railing at the top of Monticello can easily be seen, as well as the frames of windows on Jefferson's collar, but only if you spend enough time studying the coin. Maybe photos will never get you there. Nothing will if you've closed your mind, and it appears that is exactly what has happened.
Chance
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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After taking a closer look at the coin, what I thought was the face doesn't really match up... and the bust could easily be some scratches. Sorry to change my opinion so fast, but I don't think that's what you have.
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while I could spend a bunch of time making arrows and captions ... it's simply not worth it. I think that would have made this a completely different thread..some arrows and a better descriptions of what your seeing would have certainly helped..heck thats what the experts have taught us here. How do you know your not seeing remnants of a light clash or another coin having been pressed against it? If you spent hours looking at this coin one would think you could take 5 min. to put some arrows in the images. No hard feelings just my opinion. |
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Posted 06/01/2015 9:20 pm
