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On Friday I was at a certain "grocery store" in a certain "location" and in the store they had a big coin container for a charity of some sort, I was looking in through the top hole where you put the coins through and saw a bunch of old pennies, the one that caught my eye was a 1946 one in maybe EF-40. I need someone (preferably ace_ftw) to tell me EXACTLY what to say when I go there next which is looking like Monday. Of coarse there's other denominations of coins in it too but an unusual amount of older pennies, who knows what years of nickels and dimes are buried in it. Any help at all will be greatly appreciated so I can save these things. I am planning on letting them know that I will be exchanging them for more then what was already there so there is something in it for the charity, I'm very worried about this. Anyway once again please and thank you! I should also say that this big container can easily be turned upside down and have the coins dumped out for me to go through.    |
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Rest in Peace
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does the grocery store clerk know you ? if not he might not let you spill all the coins on his counter and watch you go through them especially if he's busy helping other customers. it depends what city it's in .NYC farg-Get-Aboudit !
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If you know someone from the store,you're golden.
They could tell management you are a crazy collector
and what you could do to help.
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Charity boxes are something that I, as a collector and small-time stacker, consider to be off limits. Even if you have the intention of replacing it with more money, its just not an ethical thing to do. Imagine if the head of that charity or--even a better example--someone who might benefit from it, were to walk in the door and see you rifling through the box. If it were me, I don't think it would make me look too good. I know in this case we're just talking about a penny, but suppose there was silver or even gold in there (like I read about every year showing up in Salvation Army red kettles at Xmas time); things like that are put there for a reason. But that's just my opinion.
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06/06/2015 08:37 am
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I don't think it is the store you will have to talk to it will be the charity people - origination.
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The customer service desk at the Safeway where I regularly shop has a charity box. There also happens to be a Coinstar beside the customer service desk. Guess what happens to many of the silver coins, foreign coins, strange and interesting coins that get rejected by the Coinstar? They end up in the charity box. I have seen so many coins that I would love to have sit for weeks in that box. It might be just me, but I'll never be bold enough to ask that they open it up. I've got to learn to just not look at it anymore!  |
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Depends what the charity is. If it is local they may gladly let you exchange the pennies for cash. My local church recently had a donation drive and were more than happy to let me exchange the coins for notes. Saved them having to count and wrap them all to take to the bank. The thing I do is offer to take all the coins and not just cherry pick some.
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06/06/2015 09:02 am
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Tell the charity that'll you will pay double face value for _all_ the coins in the container...
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How about honoring the gift? The coin(s) are their property although they may not be aware of the value over face. You need to contact the charity and buy the coins from them at fair market value. Anything else has only one name to it: theft
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For fun, I sometimes toss in interesting coins into containers like this... common VG grade George V 1-cent and 5-cent coins, low grade tombac 5-cent coins, nickel 50-cent coins, nickel dollars... sometimes even a problem (i.e., cleaned or scratched) 1918 large cent... I always wondered if it drove some folks crazy looking at them...  "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Honesty IS the best policy. As a kid I found a double die in the offering for Bible school (was asked to count and roll the coins). I told them what it was worth, where they could go to sell it and get full price. They told me that if not for me, they never would have known. They let me keep it.  I put it on my dresser so I would not misplace it until I could take it to my grandfather to help me store it properly. When I was out, and without telling me, my brother grabbed it with some loose change on my dresser and spent it at the mall!  Just ask the charity. How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 |
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Place a note inside the container with your contact information.... write something in the nature of...:
"Hi my name is _____ I'm a coin collector and there were some coins I saw in this container that really intrigued me. Please contact me and I will be happy to pay their fair collector value for all the coins"
Then they will either contact you or not....
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The note would be a last resort I think, after explaining everything to them including what SPP_Ottawa said, if any of that did not work. Right before I leave if that is what happens then I will do that. I do not know them and they do not know me. Quote:
Anything else has only one name to it: theft
I don't know whether to agree with that or not, so when your roll hunting if you find a 1948 dollar you need to be honest with the bank and instead of replacing it with a loonie like anyone would do, give them $2000 (and the box of dollars) when at the dump bank and tell them that you found a rare coin in a roll and that you need to pay for it. This is why just buying the whole charity container would be a good idea, you don't know what's in it but when you find a 1948 dollar you already own all the coins. To just exchange it for a dollar would be dishonest but they would most likely see it as a $1 coin anyway.  Lenver, if I did that I would tell them to call me when the container is full and in the past %99 of people I gave my number to did not call back at all. hcmusicguy, it IS an ethical thing to do because the coins in it that are "takers" would be melted if I did not get them, also, it is my hobby. If someone does see me and is disturbed by what they THINK I am doing then all they need to do is ask and most importantly, listen. I am pretty sure the coins I saw in this container were not put in because of being older and worth a little more. Thanks for the help everyone! Edited by Normic67
06/06/2015 9:25 pm
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Once the coins are in the charity box they are the property of the charity and the clerk should not allow one to rifle through the box, even if the coins were replaced in greater amounts. The note idea is the best solution, if they call you offer to buy the entire box at a higher value. Of course that might perk their interest and cause them to grab them or sell them, but that is their right, not yours or the stores.
Removing a coin, even if replaced with a higher face value would constitute theft.
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Maybe things are different in Canada or something, I don't know if you saw my post from a year ago but there was a silver dime in a charity box full of coins at McDonalds and I went there when the manager was there and she let me rifle through the whole thing and I took the silver dime and put in a quarter. According to you when I did that I "stole" that dime and for some reason I was never arrested. I was never arrested because the charity did not care. I see nothing wrong with it knowing that they just carelessly chuck the coins into rolls without even looking at the date. If they did put them up for sale they would make a fool out of themselves buy overcharging like what the people on craigslist do. Don't people still have chances to get valuable coins for face value anymore... I would say they do but if they post it on CCF it might get locked. Anyway seeing the kind of stuff I see on CCF, the big scores everyone gets.. I don't even care, if a 1948 dollar was in it I would give the clerk a toonie and walk off.  |
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If one asks, and they don't mind, then it's fine. As long as you received permission.
If you took the coin and substituted it without permission, then, that's not a good thing.
I saw a 1908 U.S. Penny (turned out to be the VDB version) in a tip box at Starbucks, I frequent. I politely asked, and told them if I could take a closer look at the penny. The barista took the penny out for me, and handed it to me. I offered to put a tip in, but she was friendly, and said, "It's only a penny. It's travelled over a 100+ years, and deserves a good home - it's your to keep". She made my day.
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06/09/2015 01:08 am
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