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What A Day (First Coin Show, New Albums, Etc)

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Yesterday was quite the day! I had ordered some Dansco albums to transfer stuff from my Whitman folders, a loupe and a 1 pound sack of wheat pennies and they arrived! A few minutes later, I was off on my lunch break to go to my first coin show. I have just started in the obsession/hobby and one of the first things I did was check to see when the next coin show would be in town. Lo and behold, it was this weekend and it was 2 miles from my work! So I went down and was overwhelmed by what I saw. I spent a good hour and a half "just looking" and picked up a few things I had wanted to get like a mint proof set for family birth years, some 2x2's, some cheap steel cents and IHC's and some ASE's. The Silver Eagles were gorgeous and I couldn't wait to take them home and show them off.
I was up until 2:30am filling in the albums from folders and coin stashes that had been set aside for that purpose.

My ticket will get me back into the coin show today. I may go, but with no money (the temptation is too great to pick up another couple of ASE's and I'm already over my coin budget this month).

I do have a question about coin shows, though. Is it ok to haggle or should I stick to listed prices?

Brandon
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 Posted 02/02/2008  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fengk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like you had fun! It's definitely OK to haggle. However, I like to just ask the dealer for his best price, and either take it or leave it. If you continually haggle after the dealer offers you a price, then it's just poor form, IMO.
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 Posted 02/02/2008  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ceaton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was very overwhelmed at my first show too. I learned that next time I need to bring a list of what I need/want. Normally the dealers that I've dealt with sell off of greysheet prices, or a tad over. Fine by me. So my advice is to bring a list and don't waste too much time haggling because the next table over might have the same coin and might want to give you a deal. I have a show to go to tomorrow, and a large list. My wife is going to be so bored :)
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 Posted 02/02/2008  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your changing from Whitman to Dansco. Not real smart. They are basically the same except a few things. Dansco is higher, deeper and brownish. Whitman's are more versatile as to adding more pages to almost every one they make. Whitman's can have numerous types of pages ordered for numerous types including blanks and even sheets of press on numers/letters. New slides also available. Both will protect our coins equally. However, that depends on where and how you store them.
As to coin shows. I've been going to them for about 30 or 40 or ? years. At my age It's difficult to remember never going to a coin show on a weekend. Of course around me there is the constant problem of conflicting shows. Coin, gun, knife, computer, camera, etc shows going on all the time. Then of course there are dog, cat and other pet shows. Yuk. Just to much to do. I still manage about 2 to 4 coin shows a month.
At a coin show I ALWAYS haggle about prices. I look at a coin, if not marked I guess what I would pay, ask the price, if not what I wanted to pay, I begin to attempt to chew them down. If not, I just walk away. At some shows with about 100 tables there is just to much compitition to not try to chew down prices. When prices are noted on the coin I still ask what is really your best price. And again if not what I like, I'll ether say your kidding or just walk away. If they make any snide remarks, I purposely sit down at a table right next to that guy and make statements like I really am in the market for a Lincoln 09S VDB in MS grade, 16D Merc in MS, etc. Usually not available but it will irk the idiot that made the snide remarks. I go to coin shows to have fun, buy some coins if I find what I like, attempt to meet people, learn as much as I can.
I love coin shows. Only close is a gun show. Camera, stamp, sports card shows are fading away.
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 Posted 02/02/2008  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Brandon,

It seems as though you are as excited as I was back in my 20's. That's great.

Wish we had coin shows in western Colorado, but they are few and far between.
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 Posted 02/03/2008  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svtPONY95 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congratulations and welcome to the hobby. A little bit of advice from a fellow hobbyist, collect what is fun for you and don't get caught up to quickly in buying coins for investment. Make it fun !!
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 Posted 02/03/2008  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jdgarst0720 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That does sound like fun. I agree with svtPONY- just have fun. I, personally, cannot put alot into my hobby now- I just go thru my rolls and look around. Coin shows are usually not close by, so I wish I could get to one!

Take care- John
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When prices are noted on the coin I still ask what is really your best price. And again if not what I like, I'll ether say your kidding or just walk away. If they make any snide remarks, I purposely sit down at a table right next to that guy and make statements like I really am in the market for a Lincoln 09S VDB in MS grade, 16D Merc in MS, etc. Usually not available but it will irk the idiot that made the snide remarks.
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Just a quick comment...you ask for the best price, they tell you what it is and then you make a comment like "you're kidding". Walking away is one thing, but you called the guy an idiot for making a snide remark when you basically did the same thing. The dealers are there to make money. You do realize some of them travel from out of town to set up a table, plus the expense of the table itself adds to their overhead. I am not sure what tables at shows run these days but that's an expense that has to be covered right off the top, along with the travel expenses. Why not just say "ok, thanks" and walk away? Perhaps you egged the dealer on to make a snide remark with the way you said "you're kidding"? I have been to plenty of coin shows and know that there are plenty of arrogant dealers, but nonetheless I still treat them with respect unless they do something completely out of line. If I dont like the price on a particular item, I dont buy it simple as that. Just as much as you may not like the price on a coin, they probably dont like getting chizzled by prospective buyers. It gets old for everyone. Like you said, you go there to have fun at shows, so have fun with it and leave the comments out of the negotiations and I bet you will have more fun.

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02/04/2008 12:04 am
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justcarl--I think he was talking about changing from Whitman folders (push the coin in the circle, only see one side) to true albums with slides. Dansco makes a fine album, in my experience.
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 Posted 02/04/2008  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shatsi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like when the price is listed on the 2x2 to begin with so that I have an idea whether I could afford it.
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I like when the price is listed on the 2x2 to begin with so that I have an idea whether I could afford it.
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I agree...I hate it when dealers make you ask. I do understand that there is some volatility on certain coins when it comes to prices, but dealers should know what they have in the coin and what they want to get out of it. If a dealer is too lazy to reprice the coins or put prices on it up front, I wont buy from them 99% of the time (the other 1% being the time that they have something I just cant live without...ha ha).
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 Posted 02/05/2008  07:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

justcarl--I think he was talking about changing from Whitman folders (push the coin in the circle, only see one side) to true albums with slides. Dansco makes a fine album, in my experience.

AAHHH, that may well be. If so then of course get rid of those folders. Never could figure out why anyone would use those. Dansco does for sure make a fine album. Actually theirs is a bit better constructed than Whitman and much, much better than Littleton's.
And if displaying a coin album on a shelf, bookcase, etc. the Dansco Albums really look expensive. I only prefer Whitman due to the excessive availability of additional pages, press on letters/numbers, more types of albums. And since I've been using them for so many years it is really to late to change.
As to my attitude at a coin show. The greatest amount of coin shows I go to have dealers from the area. Most do not travel excessive distances. Most are repeat dealers at the same shows over and over. Not all, but many have a if you don't buy my coin for my price go away attitude. I sometimes think that many of the dealers at these repetitive shows just go there to socialize and could care less about the coin sales. At many flea markets around here there are many sellers with similar attitudes. Usually a retired person with nothing else to do. I've actually seen the same coin dealers at a flea market then at a coin show a few days later.
My favorite coin dealer at all these shows is a guy that if you ask to see a coin in his closed case he remarks "WHY, are you going to buy it?"
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Yes, I was transfering coins from the folders to the albums and it's a BIG difference!
My wife absolutely loves how they look on the bookcase.
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As to my attitude at a coin show. The greatest amount of coin shows I go to have dealers from the area. Most do not travel excessive distances. Most are repeat dealers at the same shows over and over. Not all, but many have a if you don't buy my coin for my price go away attitude. I sometimes think that many of the dealers at these repetitive shows just go there to socialize and could care less about the coin sales. At many flea markets around here there are many sellers with similar attitudes. Usually a retired person with nothing else to do. I've actually seen the same coin dealers at a flea market then at a coin show a few days later.
My favorite coin dealer at all these shows is a guy that if you ask to see a coin in his closed case he remarks "WHY, are you going to buy it?"
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Yeah I have seen dealers similar to what you describe. I have seen some that dont even say thanks for the purchase which absolutely floors me. I wont buy from those guys. I've seen some ignore people that stop at their table, so they also wont get my business. I am not asking alot but a simple thank you or hello goes a long way.
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i have a great dealer in the area just 2 minutes from the house--which can be trouble for the ol' wallet if you follow my drift.
there is going to be a coin show in two weeks in my area---i am going! it's my first time--so I hope I to see some interesting items...my dealer will be there..he told me not to expect the same prices that he's got me accustomed to. he actually sells the coins at higher prices in the shows than he does at the shop. I collect ASE's. I'm a few away from completing the set. I bought them from him for almost spot pricing (literally). he's a great guy--wholesale helps. coin show here I come.
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 Posted 02/07/2008  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky_13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I almost had my first coin show experience today, turned out they were buying and not selling
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