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New Member
Australia
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After all I read and tried I had just about given up on effectively cleaning verdigris off coins BUT miracle of miracles I have found a method that is so easy and works so effectively. AND the only damage is if the verdigris has already eaten into the coin and with the verdigris completely gone there is that worn mark. So I guess thats better than more verdigris for those ones anyway. Anyone interested? WEll its DEGREASER. Yep simple old engine degreaser. Just spray it on. Leave sit for only a half hour, wash and scrub off, dry with tissues or rags and presto. Often all the verdigris is all gone by now. If not most is and another dose and cycle does the job. LOL and I was just about to smelt my jars and jars of verdigris pennies, but now. Unbelievable. Cheers, mike.  
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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If the verdigris has already pitted the surface of the coin, the damage of which cannot be fixed, I guess that cleaning with degreaser may be worth experimenting with on some of less valuable coins.
Show us some 'before and 'after' pictures, if you are happy with your results.
I am much more amenable to the idea of cleaned coins, in the case of ancient coins recovered from direct ground burial.
Nevertheless, potentially valuable ancient coins recovered from direct ground burial are usually cleaned by museum professionals, with a range and combination of methods using a wealth of experience. Some of these cleaning techniques can be found with a Google search.
Edited by sel_69l 02/13/2016 08:37 am
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Moderator
 United States
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Before and after pics please. That may work fine on "junk" coins but not for coins with a premium. "If" you need to "preserve" a coin with a premium,start with the least damaging method first and then move on to the more harsh methods. John1 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't like the scrubbing part.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
Scrub...brrrr.....scrub - that single word just makes me run.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Have you heard of verdicare? It's the industry standard for safe conservation and removal of verdigris. It was made by a coin collecting chemist for himself and it was so good he started marketing it. Oh and he's a member here so I'm bitting my nails waiting for his response to your method And please do post before and after pics. Call me curious 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 Several problems with that. And the big one is not all such items are the same. And since your in Australia, might be completely different solution. If you would go to the average auto parts store or even the auto section at Walmart, you would see several different brands of that. Some may do more damage than good. Some may leave a residue that is difficult to remove too. It is sort of like people saying use water. Not all waters are the same.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yes, pics please !
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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New Member
 Australia
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Will try to reply to all at once. Yes have seen verdi care and seen many pics of its before and after and some to considerable verdigris or at least verdigris residue is left in most pics I have seen. Degreaser leaves NONE.
No unfortunately cannot post pics as have no mobile or digital camera at present.
On the points mebbe different conditions depend on coins and degreaser, well ok there is for coins and I've only tried one degreaser.
I didnt mention it because I figured anyone interested and doing it would spot those obvious subdivisions and cope that easily in their own right with them. So without being able to post pics the situs as known are -
- light verdigris on australian cleanish otherwise pennies, - verdigris totally gone and a wonderful natural patina total coin.
-pennies literally encased in the "black dirt" as you probably know of coins - verdigris totally gone, some black dirt gone and coin sheen a bit like a coin cleaned in vinegar or such as you may know. Not very much because you are only leaving in the degreaser for half an hour but a tinge of that vinegaar clean sheen.
- heavily black spotted coins with residual individual spots looking like they are verdigris emanators - verdigris gone but several cycles more not much black spot lessening, and not very noticeable coin cleaned by vinegar sheens.
Hope that is some help. best I can offer at the moment. Cheers.
EDIT - sorry, forgot the antiscrubbing - well if you dont scrub, just use washing and wiping with wet tissue or rage.
Edited by ozusco 02/13/2016 5:42 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Could somebody please send Mike (the original poste) a camera?  So did you use gel or foam degreaser? I've got a jar or cruddy coins wasting away. None of them valuable so why not experiment? Of course, I have to do that outdoors and so that I won't be doing that anytime soon.
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New Member
 Australia
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Ty for reply Buddy. Neither gel or foam Buddy as I know them, just the ordinary spray can engine degreaser you get at any auto parts store and many other dept stores. More sprays a petrolly liquid here in australia. I just sprayed either one or both sides of the coin and left them on an aluminium surface in the laundry.
Interesting to note the greem verdigris removed is on the aluminium of course, but after you wipe that and it looks clean, if you use a wet tissue to really hard wipe again, it comes up with green residue on the tissue.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: please send Mike (the original poste) a camera? It's been 5 years and I was wondering if anyone was kind enough to send the op a camera? I have a very old Chinese coin with heavily packed on verdigris. It really doesn't make sense to preserve this coin since its patina would remain totally hidden by preserved verdigris. If you cannpt even see under the junk, a process like this may just fill the bill.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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There are two basically different types of chemistries for engine degreasers: 1. Strongly alkaline based, where greases are converted into non organic detergents, and 2. Solvent based hydrocarbon degreasers which organically dissolve greases into lighter fractions. Kerosene is a good example of this type.
Note Never use a chlorinated hydrocarbon such as trichlorethylene. All chlorinated hydrocarbons are to greater or lesser extent, carcinogenic and threaten the liver.
My question is:- What type of degreaser was used in this case?
In any case, the remaining verdigris still has to be passivated, or the bronze disease will simply continue.
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Has anybody experimented with WD40?
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