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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Why did ANACS not notice this? The eagle has been outlined with some kind of tool.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1584 Posts |
Not enough room to list all the problems on the label maybe.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The tooling seems more important and obvious than the cleaning. You are going to have a certain % of errors in TPG. I for one am not surprised when this happens. |
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 United States
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maybe they were talking about the eagle rather than the coin when they said "edge damaged"?  no jk, the obvious tooling seems pretty important to mention too. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5828 Posts |
 with noD. Not enough room..? |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4469 Posts |
I personally have no issues with the tooled left off the details grade, but it may have been better if listed as cleaned, damaged, tooled.
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
I would think that tooling would be the biggest of the no-no's to put this into details. I can assure you I would not have been happy to order this coin and discover the tooling "by chance".
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7617 Posts |
Not enough room on the label to list all of this coins many problems. So......, they listed "damaged" and "cleaned".
If potential buyers need help figuring out what the damage is then they need to go back to coin college and take some remedial classes.
Regardless of the problems it is still a very nice coin for someone!
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Valued Member
United States
294 Posts |
ANACS has not been owned by the ANA for some time now, and they are definitely not on the top tier of grading services. Personally, there are many reasons why I wouldn't waste any money on this coin. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote:ANACS has not been owned by the ANA for some time now Since 1990 Quote:
Personally, there are many reasons why I wouldn't waste any money on this coin. Care to share, since CCF is about education... * Edge damage (You can see it at several points on the reverse at 11, 12, 1 and 2 O'clock * Tooling (poorly done) * Old cleaning What else? -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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Valued Member
United States
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Bstrauss, I would like to add that this coin has no eye appeal the tooling took care of that. Why would someone do such a thing? Also I did not know about ANACS not being owned by the ANA. I got me an ed-u-cation, thank you. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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... there are many reasons why I wouldn't waste any money on this coin. As a collector of both "damaged" and non-damaged coins, I feel that I've rarely wasted money on a coin in either category. Pricing is relative. I would venture to say that there are few CCF members who own a 1795 half dollar in any condition. Regardless of the condition, it has value. Here's a "damaged" 1795 that I couldn't resist for the price ... at what price? Take a guess, and I'll post the price paid in a few days.   IMHO, a coin like mine or that of the OP is not worth the expense of slabbing. They are what they are. On another note, I've long been an ANACS naysayer. Had they simply left the word "edge" off the OP's slab, that would have sufficed. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3058 Posts |
I have a 1795 Flowing Hair.
I am guessing you got a smoking deal so $100.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Care to share, since CCF is about education...
* Edge damage (You can see it at several points on the reverse at 11, 12, 1 and 2 O'clock
* Tooling (poorly done)
* Old cleaning
What else? You pretty much summed it up there Burton. Do you have anything to add in the name of education?  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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No, Dave, absent holding it in hand there's no much else to glean from the photos. I too am surprised that the edge damage was #1 on ANACS's list (unless it's REALLY bad on the actual edge - hidden in the holder). ANACS * Owned by the ANA until 1990 - post photo-certs this is Conder101's ANACS11 small white slab, gold hologram and the ANA logo embossed in the plastic holder bottom right front. * 1990 sold to Amos Press (the Coin World people). Amos continued the small white holders with a different symbol embossed in the plastic and different holograms. Conder101's ANACS12 through ANACS16. * 2005 sold to Anderson press (Whitman book people). Started using the edge view holder with the curved top, blue label. Grading goes to the bottom. OK, I'm sorry, that was impolite. Full "Market" grading is embraced. * 2007 sold to Driving Force LLC (Taylor) - quoting the Coin World article http://www.numismaticnews.net/buzz/...ld-now-what)"The buyer is Driving Force, LLC, owned by James Taylor, a former head of the grading service put in place when Anderson first purchased it from Amos Press in 2005. It was Taylor who led the firm's move from Ohio to Austin, Texas, and is now leading the firm's move to Colorado. Taylor's career also included stints at Independent Coin Grading and the American Numismatic Association." This is the switch to the current yellow labels, with the new company not guaranteeing the old blue labels, etc. Part & parcel of THAT there was the great grader exchange - I'll include the CCF link, but you have to get to page 2 to get past the name calling and other stupidity: https://goccf.com/t/176947&whichpage=2-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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