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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Lincoln couple sue over seizure of property, raid http://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska/...0672a21.htmlQuote:
The suit says law enforcement officials seized $224,000 in cash, firearms and a coin collection from a safe in the couple's home in 2014. Police believed that Tarrence's brother had a large amount of marijuana and cash that he kept in the house. Tarrence and Geis were never charged with a crime. Reminds me of the 1997 Drew Carey Show episode entitled "A Very, Very, Very Fine House" where Drew lets down on his luck co-worker, Larry live at his home until he finds a place of his own. Later in the episode Drew's house is raided by government agents and then seized due to Larry's drug dealing from the home. Drew has to buy his home back through public auction. So be very careful who you let live under your roof. Their actions, even if unbeknownst to you, still might cost you a lot of money and grief. Asset forfeiture laws are very controversial these days and you don't have to be guilty to have your possessions seized. Edited by Joe2007
04/18/2016 1:29 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I knew a guy who loaned his car to a buddy, then finds out his buddy is arrested at the US/Canada border, and his car is seized, seems his buddy thought he could smoke a J on his way up to Vancouver. He did not get his car back.
Moral of these stories is : Do not let drug users into your life, for any reason. Life is tough, it needs to be tough on the user, not the nice guys.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I do have to wonder about the unbeknownst to you part:
Hey, bro, mind if I keep some cash in your safe?
Sure bro, how much?
$234,000
Do you say "sure, bro, no problem" at this point or do you say "umm, bro, is there something you need to tell me here"?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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200+K in cash and the safe was cut with a chop saw? That's why you don't buy your safe from a retail store. If you are trying to safeguard that kind of money you better have a 6 sided jewelers safe and not a gun safe. Most people don't realize those gun safes can only be insured to like $30,000. My safe is insurable to one million dollars and the premium is laughable because of the safe itself. I was going to bolt it to the slab, but the installer told me about the last one they had to drill. He said it took like 3 hours and 50+ drill bits to get one hole in it. It also weighs around 3000lbs empty. If someone can get it they worked for it.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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In this instance (and in most similar instances) it seems probable that this couple knew about their relatives activities. However it is theoretically possible for this to happen without your knowledge.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Even though the article was missing a lot of useful information, sounds like the Police did violate their right to due process and did violate their 4th Amendment rights... I hope they win their lawsuit...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Even though the article was missing a lot of useful information, sounds like the Police did violate their right to due process and did violate their 4th Amendment rights... I hope they win their lawsuit... Law enforcement are "entitled" to seize any assets that they even *suspect* were involved with or obtained by criminal activity through a procedure known as Civil Asset Forfeiture. As absurd as it sounds, they can even file legal suit against the assets themselves in order to take possession, and since inanimate objects are not entitled to constitutional rights of due process, there is no burden of proof necessary. Though it does have its justifiable applications, the civil forfeiture system is rife with abuse, and I encourage you to research into the subject. Edited by Kefiroth
04/18/2016 8:06 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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True: the next door neighbour lived with termites, and they trashed the house; complete demolition needed.
THAT, currently, is one of my primary concerns.
Maybe not numismatic, but all owners of timber homes need to be reminded of.
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Valued Member
United States
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IMHO, Civil Asset Forfeiture laws are unAmerican and abusive. So are Eminent Domain laws. It's sad, but nobody owns anything if the government can just take things because they feel justified.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Another thing the 2nd amendment should have been utilized to prevent. No warrant, no entrance... period. Force used to gain entrance opens the door to the perps becoming targets - no matter the clothes they wear. Easy to say... hard to do in real life though.
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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The $224,000 was the couple's, not the drug dealer's. The police claim they "suspect" these assets were used for drug dealing, so they can confiscate without any charge being filed. I would never keep that kind of cash or coins in my home as this and other sorts of things can happen. The police would have a hard time getting a court order to seize assets held in a bank under the names of individuals not charged with any crime. Its only because it was at the scene that they could get at it.
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