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Edited by Slider23
05/06/2016 6:03 pm
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New Member
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Wow those colors are nice. I'm going VF30
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Pillar of the Community
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Vf35 the obv color gave it a small boost.
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Pillar of the Community
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 VF35. I wish I had color like that on mine.
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Pillar of the Community
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VF-30
I would give it cleaned and artificially toned as that is what happened here. I would not buy it.
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The coin is close to EF sharpness, but the surfaces look to have been cleaned. The color is either the result of re-toning, or has been "helped." This coin would be a pass for me also.
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Bedrock of the Community
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This is a one-look "something's wrong here" coin. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Interesting comments on this coin. Looking at the coin in hand there are no signs of a previous cleaning. NGC recently gave the coin a problem free XF45 and CAC agreed with a sticker. If this coin is AT, then, there is a much bigger problem with our hobby than just this coin as almost any coin with color is suspect. I do not know if the coin is AT or NT as I simply relied on the experts that color on the coin was market acceptable as NT. I like the coin as I am doing a toning type set with color and this coin fits the look of the collection.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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i had it as AU50 weakly struck. close but no banana
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Nice toning. I thought it was a details grade at first.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks dipped and retoned but that's market acceptable these days. Nice color where there's color.
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I disagree. Dipped and retoned. There is just no natural way for that toning to have occurred on a coin that circulated without it first being cleaned in some way. Looking again at the details, I can see EF-45. I was distracted by the color and surface unoriginality. However, if there are no hairlines, it can get a pass from a TPG. As I said, I would have passed. Edited by TypeCoin971793
05/08/2016 1:16 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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TypeCoin, It appears that NGC, PCGS and CAC disagree with you as here is another problem free toned seated liberty coin that has the same grade, same color pattern, and in a problem free PCGS holder. The one below is for sale on ebay for only $1900.   |
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Again, dipped decades ago and put into an album where it toned for years until it was sent to be certified. As there were no hairlines, the surfaces were deemed market-acceptable, though not original. The only time a TPG would details a dipped coin is if it a blast-white AU/UNC with absolutely no luster or a blast-white G/VG. 100+ year old Silver coins below AU should not be white. |
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How about this 1830 Half Dime? You can clearly see hairlines and unnaturally shiny surfaces, which are indicative of a harsh cleaning. It has since retoned. Problem-free PCGS AU-50. They gave it a pass because of the color.   |
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TypeCoin, Where is the grading line for toned silver coins with bright colors to be natural toned and not dipped? I have read that CAC does not like to sticker dipped coins, but the 1877 Seated quarter has a sticker. The 1877 does show some original luster on the obverse that looks much like AU. |
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Posted 05/06/2016 06:38 am
