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1984-P Lincoln Cent Collar Clash?

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I read a post on here not too long ago about a die with an eroded edge due to an off-set with the collar. At least I think that's what I read. Is that what this is? Is it called a Collar Clash?

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 Posted 05/08/2016  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're gonna see a lot of these. Not a collar strike. Seems to be a LDS coin / a zinc that has some serious plating issues. No premium
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Thanks CC, but I don't think this is just LDS. I found the other post I was referring to. This comment was in it.
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This is a die attrition error. The edge of the field portion of the die was worn away when a temporarily misaligned obverse (hammer) die smacked repeatedly against the beveled entrance of the collar.
I believe that applies here. I could be wrong, another opinion might be helpful.
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I'm thinking Die Deterioration. The devices are thinning a bit as well. Thanks, Doug.
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If the defect of interest is the low ridge that cuts through AMERICA, this is a form of Die Deterioration. There's no evidence of a die attrition error on either face.
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 Posted 05/09/2016  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Linda Falcon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Here is an updated and upclose image of one of the marks on my 1964 Kennedy half dollar.
This one happens to be behind Kennedys neck.
We placed a paper over the coin and rubbed a pencil lead over it and the marks appear to definitely be raised
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Die Deterioration it is. Thanks ya'll for the input. With special thanks to Linda.
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I re-read the post on Die Attrition. It's when the die hit the collar, wearing away the edge of the die, creating a "wider rim" on the coin. My coin still has the edge of the die, affording a normal rim. The Die Deterioration on my coin seems to have affected the edge of the die mostly at AMERICA It appears as if the planchet metal was "rushing" towards the edge where the die was worn.
I think I have it right now, if not, constructive criticism is more than welcome.
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