1788 8 Reales Mexico

This one, chopped (between IND and REX)? How about a closeup of that? Possibly also a test mark to the left of the upper right pillar?

How does the edge look? Any overlaps?

Weight and purity of course doesn't preclude later manufacture for the Chinese trade.

Polished as you say, which greatly diminishes any numismatic premium.

Good eye, I hadn't noticed that, although that chop was clearly applied individually to each coin.

It'd be a bit unusual for modern numismatic forgeries of such to be made to the proper weight and purity, though, wouldn't it?

Thanks for so many opinions being posted.

I am really curious abut these coins.

If I knew they were modern fakes I might have them melted

In the next week I will try to have them taken to NTR and have them checked on their equipment. NTR's will tell me better the metal content
of the coins.

There are six more of these coins that came from the same group,
if they have not been sold I will try to take a second look at them.

All the coin had this card with them for the Washington mint.
On the coin above, to me the hole beside the right pilar appears
to be filled with polishing compound. That gave me the impression
that all these coins were polished before trying to sell them.

I should have said .. That this COA does not mean much ...

Just posted it to show where they came from.

I have two of them being taken to NTR, if they are not busy they will check them.

I also looked at the other 6 8R's ... They all had they same chop Mark
in the similar location.

RE:
https://goccf.com/t/261580
https://goccf.com/t/261582
https://goccf.com/t/261583
https://goccf.com/t/261584

You could tell these were specifically Washington Mint polish jobs (they of the blue clamshell holder) even before that was mentioned. A discussion from a while back that I recall (and a search found):
https://goccf.com/t/97058

I have never seen a real problem with NON-1783/El Cazador 8R in their packaging. I have been a tad suspicious about their 1783 pieces (some marketed as El Caz., some not)... some sort of look like casts, but I've never matched any pairs, so it could just be the type of cleaning they did on them - note that for those, some were given the polish job like with GR58's pieces, others just acid-dunked, no polishing.

Do have to note:


Don't confuse these Washington Mint pieces with those ("Postal Commemorative Society"). The latter is almost all obvious modern fake - have posted numerous times about that particular packaging.

***EDIT: A good example of PCS product ending today - the elusive Mexico 1803 HJ assayer!:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mexico-1803...391466331065

Anyway, the identical chop mark on all (4) IS curious, but given that these were hanging out together, they probably were acquired at the same time from Wash. Mint... so couldn't they simply have come from the same large Chinese hoard and have been "validated" or similar by the same person/entity in olden days?

At any rate, the detail, etc. looks fine/regal (including what at first glance may look strange to the unexperienced on that 1811 Lima), they all test 90%... in all likelihood, they are all legit Asian-circulated pieces that had their splotchy-toned hoard surfaces shined up real nice. They could of course be examples (one or all) of Bob's 1800's unofficial restrikes, rather than official Spanish mint-made pieces, but they're almost certainly not modern fakes.

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With that out of the way, someone needs to say it straight so as to prevent future repeating - with what was done to them, these coins are garbage - look for better!! That polish job has completely altered the surfaces to a totally unnatural appearance, one which essentially can't be undone. Even if/when they tone (see in that previous thread... the clamshell felt + air pocket exposure seems to promote toning), it looks like painted-on toning with the polishing still blatant underneath. The metal is moved around such that the surfaces WILL NEVER HEAL.