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Hey all, If you've seen some of my posts in the past, I am an avid pursuer of IHC varieties. I picked this one up a couple months ago. I won't get into too many details, but it was unattributed and I only had to beat out a 500 something dollar bid in the end. It was one of the most exciting moments of my life..the adrenaline rush was unreal!    Anyways, this is it. It's got the rim Cud, and the overdate is clear as day. Thoughts on grade? The first picture is before a Verdicare treatment, the others are after. I used the "debris remover" method where you rotate the coin while wiping it with a coin-safe cloth. Now, I'm obviously slightly nervous about trying more conservation methods myself with a coin like this. Should I do the Verdicare 24 hour soak? Acetone bath? Toothpick? Does this coin even need treatment or will it straight grade? NCS is always an option too. The black stuff, looking at it under magnification in hand, seems raised. Like it's caked on there. It's not into the coin, so I don't think it's damaged, but is it even worth removing..? The area is really just the 3 or 4 dots around the date - it looks nowhere near as bad in hand compared to the magnified photo. I'm pretty confident that one way or another this will make its way into a problem free holder. I plan on doing a walkthrough next time I get to a show, probably Baltimore or FUN later this year. Would love to hear some suggestions at this point, and will be sure to update the thread.     |
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Wow, congrats on the find! With a coin like that, I would sure consider NCS for conservation. It would be nice to get rid of some of the deposits around the date and along the devices, even though it would probably get a straight grade as is.
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Be careful, I would leave it be. Great find !
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Stop cleaning it yourself. What is the retail value? What would it cost to have NCS conserve it? Looks nice as is. John1  |
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My opinion, leave it be it looks great as it is..  |
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Cleaning, NCS or not, won't do anything to help this coin. Just submit to PCGS as-is and hopefully it will come back clean. If not, you have an extremely valuable details coin.
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I'd try sending it in raw to NGC or PCGS, if it comes back details, crack it out and then try ncs. As it sits it looks like a low to mid VF. Nice pickup.
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Bedrock of the Community
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That's a very nice coin! Congrats! I usually recommend people do not attempt to conserve valuable or rare coins on their own unless they have a lot of experience in conservation and are very confident in their methods. Considering this coin may have straight graded without conservation, I would have recommended that you do nothing and leave the conservation to NCS. At this point, the coin looks great still. I would not attempt any further self-conservation. If you aren't satisfied with how it looks, I would send to NCS. If you're alright with it, send to a TPG as is...it should grade IMO. GOOD LUCK! |
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Nice hit. Personally the first picture is the way I would have left the coin, save maybe an acetone soak.
Using a lot of the coin conservation products out there including VERDI-CARE tm , MS-70, sudsy ammonia , or , for those lucky enough to still gave a small stash of Triclorethane 1-1-1 , can get you into more trouble with a coin. Rather than conservation you end up with ruination. Years of experience , and knowledge of knowing how far you can go to restore a coin are imperative if you wish to end up with an acceptable result. NCS charges big money for restoration for good reason, because they can.
Good luck getting it straight graded!
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks for the advice everyone, I will leave it alone and see how it fares.
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Very nice. I am at VF-20.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Agree VF-20 and a fantastic coin for the money - congrats. |
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I like it as is also. Knowing me, I would probably try a toothpick on it. Not recommending it, just telling you what I get the itch to do when I have a situation like this. Great pick up!
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WOW, what a find!....cant beat smarts and luck!...grade, just don't matter, probably vf30...get that sucker in a holder! congrats!
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It is a neat find, but it might not get a straight grade. I see some possible graffiti in the right field under "UNITED" that might keep it from grading. There are also so minor pigs here and there. My grade would be Fine-15 if the graffiti turns out to be something that is only in my imagination. I suppose today's lax standards would call it VF.
"Coin Facts" claims that the total known population for this variety is 500 pieces. With a retail value set at $4,250 to $5,500 (Fine 12 and 15), getting this certified would seem to be a good idea.
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05/31/2016 09:42 am
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