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Is This 1949 Dollar Cleaned, Specimen Or Other..? Beautiful Finish !! Ad

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 Posted 06/07/2016  11:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TaeKenDo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Wondering how the experts will read this coin. I'm considering buying it but don't want to be stuck in the ribs $$$ buying it if it's a dud. Any opinions would be appreciated.

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 Posted 06/08/2016  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what I know, 1949 dollars were the first (or one of the first) to be sent out to banks in rolls. And so a lot of them are in very high gem grades because they did not bang on one another much. ms65 sell for $70 or so, 66 sell for maybe $200. The one in your pictures is a beautiful high grade one. It is beautifully struck but the rims have a couple of hits, so I'm not sure if it's a SP. I don't think it's cleaned but I can see why your suspicious. The pics are a tad "blurry/softened"
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 Posted 06/08/2016  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GregJG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was thinking pl, but the surfaces are just too exceptional... So my guess is very high grade Specimen.
Would be interesting to see what others say about the "FLOREAT TERRA NOVA" which looks like it's been Struck Through Grease or something else

PS I'm by no means an "expert"
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 Posted 06/08/2016  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't bet on it. The devices are sharp on these to begin with but the lettering on the specimens is very fine and sharp. The edge is square on many of these, because most are special strikes to begin with, compare this edge picture to oothers
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 Posted 06/08/2016  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also notice the ship side of this one graded sp63 by PCGS, the third picture and blow it up , the lettering is very sharp and the strikes are really deep on the specimens, double struck

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 Posted 06/08/2016  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lucv13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow except for that Floreat Terra lettering it is a beautiful piece...:)
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 Posted 06/08/2016  05:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
..That is a beautiful coin..
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 Posted 06/08/2016  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beauty!
Not a specimen.
My vote is PL66.
There are oodles of '49s at this grade or higher
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 06/08/2016  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fields look amazing, but I don't get the die wear/weakness in the center letters."REATTE". I've never seen that before.

The rims on this coin have taken a few strong rubs and hits..

SP's show perfect letters, and the one that I have looks quite different from this coin..There are a lot of perfect 49's out there.. so don't go too deep on this one..
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 Posted 06/08/2016  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He's looking for about $150 cdn... I think that's quite steep to take a chance. I can't see this hitting MS66 if it's not a SP so more likely a 65 but $50 over paid. But as a SP, even 63, would be a fair price I think to have a nice coin.
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 Posted 06/09/2016  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would not be a SP with the flattened letters.
I had one with the same defect that was an MS coin.
If as you think it is a MS65, then it is overpriced.
I bought a ICCS MS65 for just under $100.00 with
shipping.
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 Posted 06/09/2016  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the advice.
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 Posted 06/09/2016  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After looking at it more, I'd think it's a MS65. Just my opinion, thought i'd share it. Try maybe offering him a little lower if you're still interested
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 Posted 06/09/2016  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's what I might do. I was looking at his other coins as well & from far, several look like this one but when the photo is blown up, you can see that it's NOT what the photos imply about their fnish & they look cleaned. He says it's from his 'Personal' collection but after seeing the others, I'm a little suspicious.
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 Posted 06/10/2016  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I'm a little suspicious.


Those letters would also cause me to view it with a critical eye ....don't get taken...
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 Posted 06/11/2016  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add punman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am no expert on coin grading but just for kicks I have been charting ebay auction silver dollars that are TPG by reputable companies. The average sale prices with shipping for the last year and a half have been, for the 1949:
MS64 - $51
MS65 - $88
MS66 - $157
Hope you find this info of use.
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