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Please Grade This 1859 Dime

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** I know this should go in the classic coin section but I messed up. Could a mod please move if for me - and maybe tell me how to do this myself? ***


I'm looking to upgrade my '59 dime with something not so tarnished. I'm not really into drab "shiners", but I saw this one as an educational opportunity.

Is it original? Dipped? Other?

I doesn't look wizzed, but has some contact marks; what would you give it?



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I'm going to go over to my LCS and see if they actually have something I want to buy for a change. I hate to leave a coin shop without buying something, but sometimes it is really hard.



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** I know this should go in the classic coin section but I messed up. Could a mod please move if for me - and maybe tell me how to do this myself? ***
Moved.

It is not something you can do yourself. Best option is it use the Report Post link (lower right corner of every post) to let us know that you need something fixed.
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Certainly looks like an AU details coin and the contact marks are not severe. Rims are almost perfect and the denticles are very well-formed.

The coin looks washed-out and without luster in these images which suggest it has been dipped. At this level of wear there should be significant luster, especially around the stars and legend. I suspect this coin would get an "improperly cleaned" designation from a grading service.
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Thanks jbuck, you're a man of many talents and several great avatars.
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Thanks jbuck, you're a man of many talents and several great avatars.
You are welcome and thank you.
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That 1859 dime has been over dipped. It looks like it has no luster and has pasty white surfaces. Some people might use the word "cooked." I don't think that PCGS or NGC would give it a grade.

As for toning, you might do well to develop a taste for original toning or toning that has come back after a coin was dipped a long time ago. How you can you tell the difference? It takes a combination of experience and talent.

Dipped coins with surfaces that not original are out of favor these days, but I know that a lot of collectors like their silver coins to be "white." Other than for Morgan dollars, that almosts always means that when you see a 19th century silver coin that is white, it has been dipped.

This coin is probably too dark for you, but it is a Proof with the Proof luster coming up though the toning.

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Collectors LOVE old toned silver coins that look like this.

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if you dont own this..pass.
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Beautiful coins as always, billjones.

Original example looks AU-50 details to me.
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I agree, beautiful coins with wonderful toning, billjones.
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No, don't own it and wouldn't buy it. I agree that a coin of this age should be toned but every once in awhile I see a silver mid 19th century coin that is very white and do get a grade of AU50. This looks like it would have been a nice coin without the jewelry cleaner. As I mentioned in the OP, I was posting this for educational purposes and I thank you all for your comments.
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I was posting this for educational purposes and I thank you all for your comments.


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