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How Does Certification Work?

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 Posted 07/17/2016  01:27 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jaxenro to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
How does certification work at places like PCGS and NGC? Do they just charge a flat rate per coin?
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If you go to their websites they provide detailed information. Both PCGS and NGC require a paid membership (or an ANA membership for NGC) in order to get submission privileges. ANACS and ICG do not require memberships which reduces the total cost for their submissions.

In a nutshell, grading cost varies with the value and type of coin. World, ancient, and error coins typically cost more. You need to pay for shipping both ways, and if your coins are valuable (and why would you submit them if they are cheap?) you should spring for Registered mail with insurance.

If you have candidate coins for submission please post them for CCF grading and comment. You'll get plenty of advice as to whether they are worth sending in for grading!
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 Posted 07/17/2016  05:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NeoSpec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good answer! Thank you!
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No candidate coins was more wondering about the process since I try to buy certified coins. I will research at their site
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What I was sort of wondering about is the fee must be part of the price of the coin. So if a low value Morgan at $45 includes the same certification fee as a $5 gold piece at $700 the fee is a larger part of the price of the lower value coin
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Also of importance, costs will vary depending on the turnaround time you want. The faster, the more you'll pay.
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I think gold coins cost more than other (normal value coins). Very high value coins also cost more to grade. But within these groups the coin value doesn't matter, the cost of grading is the same. It takes the same amount of effort to grade a $1000 coin as it does a $10 coin. It also prevents people from inundating them with low value coins. Of course if you want to pay them more to grade it than the coin is worth they are happy to do so!
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one thing one should always consider before certification is if grading will add value or saleability (if that is even a word).

examples:
I bought a 1943 dime graded PCGS MS65 FB with CAC for $18

Today I bought a 1986 Nickel graded PCGS PR69 DCAM for $.99 plus shipping

I do not see where the seller got his 'added value' for those two coins.
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The price of having coins slabbed fall into different categories.

One is to have experts assign a grade, sometimes for resale.
Sometimes just so a collector knows what he has.

Another is for authentication.

There is a group that will send modern coins in, to try and
get very high grades. For example MS 70 or PF 70.

Many times the price paid for having coins graded is just
part of the hobby.

A lot of times common modern coins can be purchased for much
less than the price of having them graded.

For example - Last year I bought these slabbed coins for
$2.00 each.



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The added value is in the coins you do not see. The $0.99 PF 69 is being blown out while the 3 coins that made PF-70 are being sold for $75 each.
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Right, but it's still hard to figure the upside in submitting piles of modern issues for holdering, and yet it seems almost like an industry. Well, we all know who benefits the most from it!
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