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Toned 1891-O Morgan For Grading Please

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My birthday is on Monday the 22nd so I decided to pick up a few "presents" for myself. This one I got a good deal on.

Toning presents MUCH darker in hand and there is still plenty of luster left on coin.


This is a VAM 4 complete with rim Cuds on obverse.

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I know not the greatest pictures for grading. Might have to take pics of this coin outside in full sun.

What do you think it makes? I'm thinking AU.

Also does toning look NT or AT?

Thanks...Mont
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 Posted 08/18/2016  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Might be best to try a couple more photos trying to depict the actual color of the coin if possible.
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 Posted 08/18/2016  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Certainly doesn't look right in these pics.
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I agree. These are hard to read and appear somewhat unattractive from those photos.
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Took new pictures outside in full sunlight. Best I can do for now still not showing luster behind the toning very well.

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 Posted 08/18/2016  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thedeathtouch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say MS-63 or 64. Very nice purple toning
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A notoriously poorly struck "O" mint Morgan. Yours is par for the course, strike-wise.

Don't know whether the color is natural are artificial. Best bet is to send it in for a quick TPG opinion at ANACS. If you get good results you can always send it in for an attempt at a cross-over at PCGS or NGC.

I bought a roll of those a long time ago trying to find a decent strike .... I'm still looking!
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Sorry guys I just figured out my daughter had borrowed my camera and put a filter on it. Noticed it when I took a picture of a non toned Morgan (one of my other "presents") and it came out looking purplish.

A big sorry to the Moderators of the CCF site for this one. Really didn't mean to take up so much space on one coin.

Here are new indoor pics WITHOUT the filter. You can see some of the luster as well. Left the Filtered one above to show details.

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looks MS63 maybe 64 but the obverse color does not look right. if thats the actual color I would be concerned about AT
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I'm at MS63.
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I will say AU-58 with questionable color, possibly dipped and retoned
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Significant wear and artificially toned. AU details, lower end AU. But -- the VAM is collectible in and of itself, and the Cuds are a good thing. :)
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I was thinking AU-55, but the toning does not look natural to me.
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AU-58 details, cleaned.
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AU-55, details. Collectible due to the VAM.
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Questionable color.
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