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after reading all this about real and fake silver it makes me not want to buy silver bars or rounds any more
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 Posted 08/20/2016  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add indian_hoarder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Easy, only buy from reputable sources. APMEX or direct from the manufacturer. Sometimes a few bucks more, but at least you get the security and peace of mind.
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Learn how to test for real silver.

1) Ring test
2) Magnet test
3) Specific gravity test

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Just buy paper metals. At least then you know it's fake :)
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 Posted 08/20/2016  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Best way to avoid fakes. Educate yourself to what is authentic. Do not look for deals as there are none.
Buy from reputable dealers and get proper invoices.
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It depends what you use the silver for. I melt my bars so I know what to look for when I cut them up and introduce heat to them. For your purposes it's much harder because you want to maintain the re-sellable form, so learn learn learn. A realist will drill a hole straight through a bar and test the powder with acid. Anyone else will just trust the seller from whom they bought the bar and just simply pray it's real. A realist buyer will not care that there's a hole through the bar, instead just weight the bar again and pay what it's worth. It's only metal. If someone says it's silver (or gold, as the case may be) you should not trust their word, but be very diligent instead. Homework and knowledge will save you time, money, and maintain good relationships with your sources. Never rely solely on them because they can make human mistakes. The first bars I ever bought were real and I was lucky but today I'm not so trusting and I check them anyways.
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 Posted 08/21/2016  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a reason why ASE and Maple Leaves Austrian Philharmonics etc all have a much higher than spot markup: because you can easily verify if they are legit or not based on design details.

The Sunshine mint has a decoder ring you can buy to verify if their bars or rounds are legit but that requires the purchase of their tool and how long before the fakers buy one and counteract it.

If you buy generic rounds and bars from a legit source you should be OK but when it comes time to sell how do you prove it?
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Just buy paper metals. At least then you know it's fake :)
Good one Montana -
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New to stacking as well, but I've learned quick to avoid things like ebay unless it is from a verified seller like an APMEX, scottsdale, JM etc. It's just not worth the risk to maybe save a few bucks...I have a few items I got off ebay a few years ago and they are suspect. Thankfully only about 30oz of silver.
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thanks guys .
one thing keeps running through my mind.

why would you buy silver and melt it?

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to make things out of silver (jewelry, sculpture, embellishments, etc)
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i Buy bullion from Reputable spots.

There are Reputable bullion Companies on ebay also.

I put bids up once in a while with veteren ebay members with 100%

Look for names you recognize.
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A better question would be, why would you buy silver and not use it? :P
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Yes, it's easy just forego a potential "good deal" and opt for the sure thing...no since in risk everything to save a few cents an oz
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Dumb question from someone relatively new at this:

For silver 1 oz coins, as an example, if the coin in front of you have the correct diameter and weight, is that generally enough to be confident that it is real?

I know silver is dense, so usually if it is not silver it is not the proper weight and diameter. Or is there a lot of lead filled 1 oz bullion out there?

I am not good with ice cubes, kleenex and pings. I even have the special magnets but coins I know are not silver roll down them like silver does sometimes.

I am looking for something pretty accurate and more scientific. A statement such as "tolerable weight and diameter means that >90% it is genuine."

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