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Moderator
 United States
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In an older post about moving a coin collection there were many suggestions. I recently received a question I would like to put to the forum Quote: I am moving interstate I have a reasonably large coin collection All coins are properly stored and
The coins are kept in A large safe a small safe a metal file cabinet.
Question When transporting a collection over 1000 miles Would you recommend taking everything out of the safes and cabinet and packing them in cardboard boxes or transporting them in the safes and file cabinet
I did not want to respond to this question without input from the forum Thanks in advance for your opinions which I hope will be many. P. S. I am posting this because the member who is moving does not want to be identified - (Which I understand completely) rggoodie aka Richard "catch em doing something right"
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I would box the collection up and transport that myself by car and send the safes and filing cabinet on the removals truck with all the other household items. I wouldn't feel comfortable trusting a removals crew with my coins 
Edited by trout1105 09/01/2016 08:56 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I'm only moving 3 blocks away.. but I put all my coins into steamer trunks, locked 'em and followed the truck to the new house...
For a large move if it's possible I would rather keep my eyes on them at all times... if that's not possible... I wouldn't put them in boxes... but I wouldn't put them in a safe either...
a box is too easy to take or destory and a safe screams valuables...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I've moved my collection(s) long distance a couple of times and put them in boxes that look like moving-ish boxes (can't be too big because of the weight, of course), not boxes that look like coin boxes, locked them in my trunk and/or on the bottom tier of the rest of the moving stuff stuff in the back of my car/van. Under my custody and control the whole time and as nondescript as possible (still nervous, though). I asked at a bank one time how they suggested moving a collection from a safe deposit box to the other side of the country. The teller told me that I could deposit the coins into my acount and withdraw them at my destination, but she wasn't sure if I would get the same coins back.   That's when I moved the smallish collection in a carry-on bag on the airline. I had to request a private screening of the bag contents. That was many years ago (waay before 9-11), so dunno how that works today. Using a briefcase with a set of handcuffs attached to your wrist might stand out as noteworthy and remarkable. Kinda like painting red and white concentric circles on your back. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pack them yourself, personally, in luggage. Buy luggage at the Goodwill if you need it. Move the luggage yourself, in your own vehicle or a separate rental. If you stop overnight, remove the luggage to your motel room for the night. Using boxes is a giveaway if stopping for a night. Believe it or not, lots of people who are moving get up in the morning and find their car or van missing.
This is not paranoia. There is an industry out there targeting relocating people and their property. From the employees of moving firms to motel operators, you are under threat every mile of the way.
Either eat in the motel room or dine separately close by. Do not leave your valuables unattended for even an hour.
At a gas station, pull your car keys and lock your car, even while pumping gas.
This is pretty much a standard thing for moving valuables, either hire a very expensive bonded moving firm specializing in moving valuables, such as artwork, or do it yourself. The run-of-the-mill movers have suspect work force members and most don't insure anything of real value. Antiques, coins, artwork, guns, you're hanging out there with a commercial move. Any losses are reimbursed by the pound, and you will get perhaps 3 Dollars for a boxed coin collection worth thousands.
Edited by paxbrit 09/01/2016 10:13 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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If the collection isn't too large I'd just mail them to my new location by Registered mail.
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Moderator
  United States
23500 Posts |
Quote: The coins are kept in A large safe a small safe a metal file cabinet. A little large for the unreliable US Postal service  
rggoodie aka Richard "catch em doing something right"
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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I'd mail them to myself Registered. If you have large sums of valuables on your person, you run the risk of law enforcement just stealing it under the asset forfeiture laws and you may never see it again. This could happen if you are stopped for any reason with no other evidence of having done anything at all on the sole basis of your having a large sum of valuables on you. I would not move tens of thousands of dollars of coins or gold myself.
Edited by Andrew99 09/01/2016 3:52 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
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At the ANA show I saw that lots of dealers had these huge safes that were made to hold their display cases. Do they own those safes and move them themselves? Or is there a company that will move coins for you and rent the safe? Maybe they could show up with the safe on a truck and you just have to fill it up, lock it and have it delivered. Maybe the ANA has some information....
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I suppose you could always hire an armored truck. But if your car can handle the weight, I'd pack everything up and follow the van on moving day, leaving the empty safes and cabinet in the truck.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Paxbrit nailed it. Having relocated many times myself due to my work, I've witnessed exactly what he has described. Trust no one and try and conceal your moving as best you can. Obviously this is not always possible so your best defence is never to let your property out of your site and keep it secured at all times.
Anytime I move, all valuables are transported with me and never leave my site. Valuables are locked in pelican cases and secured in trunk along side my firearms. I have GPS transmitters inside each of my pelican cases ( got them for firearms transport). Last thing I do prior to commencing my travels is contact the RCMP and notify them that I will be travelling with restricted firearms.
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: Paxbrit nailed it I tend to agree. I will be transporting part of my collection in the near future to a new safe deposit box at my bank. I will probably transport in a small suitcase for containment and disguise. 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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ditto, put it in a small suitcase that is by your side the whole time, ..
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: I would box the collection up and transport that myself by car and send the safes and filing cabinet on the removals truck with all the other household items. Exactly what I'd do.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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When I moved acrossed the country recently, I boxed my entire collection up. The least valuable boxes were sent with the movers, the most valuable boxes traveled with me and the remainder boxes were insured and sent with UPS. My safe traveled empty with the movers.
I didn't loose a single cent during the journey.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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1000 plus trip is gonna require a couple of days driving unless you are crazy like I used to be (NY to TX in 26hrs). Nowadays though 10-12 hours driving and my body starts to ache. I would rent a motorhome and then you are always with your collection. You have a personal bedroom, bathroom, living room, dining room, and kitchen on wheels. It will also be a sturdy enough vehicle to handle the weight of the collection and you can transport an unloaded (while driving} shotgun within arms reach if you wanted an extra level of security. If you plan the trip in advance you can rent campsites at state parks along the route for ~$25 a night. The vast majority of state parks I have stayed at are out of the way and everyone tends to keep to themselves.
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