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 Posted 10/07/2016  08:47 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add twslisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just started collecting, so my collection is pretty sparse. I don't think I'm going to want to collect any particular type of coin--so far I'm just picking up coins that seem like a good buy and catch my eye (I've paid too much a few times, but also stumbled on a few nice deals, like the SL Quarter I posted about earlier).

Anyway, this month the most I can spend (and this is stretching it) is $150.

While I'm definitely buying coins that appeal to me, I am also looking at this as an investment. I'm trying to spread out my money between bullion and the fun kind of coin (the ones that are a piece of history). My buys this month don't need to include bullion.

What should I look for, for the money I have to spend? Obviously I don't have the money for anything especially rare or high grade, but I'd prefer coins that are at least in the AU range.

Thanks!
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 Posted 10/07/2016  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
While I'm definitely buying coins that appeal to me, I am also looking at this as an investment.

Don't look at coins as an investment.
Think of them as a collection and recreation.
EXCEPTION: Coins costing $50,000 or more -- and maybe not even then.

If you want a coin-like investment go for bullion, and I don't mean bullion coins.
I mean bars or rounds.
And be prepared to sock them away for 20+ years.
That might work.
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 Posted 10/07/2016  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Harmonica to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I clicked on your profile to get an idea of where you were based. Firstly we have so few females in the hobby, if you are not interested in any particular coin why not check out Whitman's 100 Greatest Women on Coins?

https://www.whitman.com/store/Inven...men-on-Coins

I also see you are from Denver. Why not go after coins from the Denver mint? You could also get historic Denver silver and gold mind stock certificates to show where the raw material came from.

You also posted about an Olbia Dolphin. Well here is one from the front page of vCoins. Their dealers are on the up and up, more preferable for your ancient coins then ebay.

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/nu...Default.aspx

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 Posted 10/07/2016  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfliza to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you want to be a coin dealer? Dealers make a profit on turnover and not by hoarding stuff and waiting for the price to go up. A dealer can work as much or as little as desired and there are many ways to sell coins. I like yard sales and flea markets and specialize in cheap foreign coins that are displayed in a binder with 20 pocket plastic pages. Each Coin is protected in a cardboard 2 by 2. My minimum price is 25 cents per coin and displaying anything worth more the $25 invites theft. My experience shows that a sale should have at least six to twelve categories such as comic books, books, trading cards, postcards, stamps, tools, furniture etc. Some sales do not move a single coin while others may exceed $100 from a single customer. Coins have to be watched carefully or people steal them. Beat up large cents, Indian pennies, Two Cent Pieces, 1943 steel pennies and Buffalo nickels often sell.
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 Posted 10/07/2016  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As has been mentioned, coins purchased in the "lower" prices (those under the many thousands of dollars each), especially US coins, are simply not good investments. You really have to look at what you are doing as a hobby, rather than any potential return on investment.

That said, one of the first things you mentioned, about buying coins that catch your eye, is the very best thing you can be doing. Regardless of if it is a .25 cent "junk" coin, or the whole $150 on one coin.

If you LOVE a coin you will always make a good buy. If you look at your collection and marvel at the beautiful coins you have, you will be happy, regardless of their value or type.

What usually happens is that as you are doing this, buying coins you like, you will discover that one particular branch or series or country or type really appeals to you. Then you buy a book on that subject, learn about that type of coin, and become much better at spotting good buys within that branch. It is rare for someone NOT to find a particular area they love eventually. There is no need to rush to that, either. It will come when you find coins that you LOVE!
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 Posted 10/07/2016  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tryna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
General rules of coin collecting:

1. Collect what you like. (not what someone else says you should collect)

2. Do Not get caught up in EPR (Expected Positive Return)

3. Do not spend the rent money on coins. (this is often the hardest rule to follow)

4. Follow your heart

5. Learn, watch, read, and above all listen.

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 Posted 10/07/2016  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The most money to be made is in flipping the "hot" items fresh from the mint. About a year ago, the 2015 March of Dimes set sold for $60 per set, and if I wanted, I could have sold my three sets for $120 each on ebay. If I was one of those people who had an itchy trigger finger the *second* between they went on sale and sold out, I could have gotten them two months earlier, had them graded, and sold them for $500 per set in PF-70, $300 for PF-69.

When the bicentennial pennies came out in 2009, I saw someone sell a $25 box for over $350.

If you want to leave less to sheer luck of the draw, troll around in the ebay world, medieval, and ancients section, and learn to ID an unknown coin from a photo. You can make a modest bit of spending money that way if you know what you are doing.

If you just want to collect and love history, ancient coins are a great way to go. For your budget, you can get most of the Roman "late emperors" (Constantine the Great through Valentinian III) in good condition with legible legends for less than your budget.
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 Posted 10/07/2016  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will repeat what Kanga said....do not look at this new hobby as a future "investment".
Look at it as a hobby and have fun collecting and learning about the history of coins.
If you decide to sell them off somewhere down the road and make a little money, great.

If I did not have a Kennedy half dollar I would buy a 1998 matte proof Kennedy.
With some luck and patience you can find one in the $150 range.
If I didn't have any Indian Head cents I would look for a nice AU to add to my collection.
A nice matte proof Jefferson nickel.
Half Cent or large cent.
Your options are wide open. Look for a NICE coin that you LOVE and you can't go wrong.
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If you don't have lots of money, but have lots of time, I would go into coin roll hunting. You may find a silver coin at face value instead of melt value when you engage in this activity. The return of investment, if you decide to sell, can be awesome. Return the coins you don't need and start again. You will never lose money. Unfortunately, you can lose a ton of time trying to find silver coins.
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 Posted 10/07/2016  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since you just started collecting my advice is save your money.

If you're itching to buy something then I suggest you pick a theme. I collect coins with animals -- it's my critter coin collection. There are rules for this collection and the first rule is that NONE of them are expensive coins. This is just for fun. I search junk bins at shows, and I've bought a several from members on this site.

So -- why not spend say... $20 on some fun coins and save the rest of the money. That way when you see a good deal on a great coin you might just have enough to get it. Just putting away $100 a month will allow you to get some pretty nice gold in a few years.
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 Posted 10/07/2016  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By all means go to your LCS and any local coin shows and try to get a sense of what series appeal to you (critical) and a feel for typical pricing in the grades you like.

Do stand back and learn before you spend!
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 Posted 10/07/2016  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twslisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some awesome advice above! I did think about looking for coins with women I admired on them. Being a history buff I also considered looking for coins from the periods I study (even did some looking for a Henry I coin--not thick on the ground, and I suspect if any surface they'll be way out of my price range.)

Given my grandpa collected from circulation in Colorado, most of his coins were minted here in Denver, so I do have lots of those. It might be fun to collect one of every coin minted in Denver, but in a few cases it'd be pricy!

As for becoming a dealer, id probably need to have some coins first! I'll work on it! Most of my gps's coins are probably melters. Maybe once I've finished studying his collection and going over my own coppers, I'll try my hand at roll hunting. Could be a fun way to while away those wintry days later in the year.

As for the investment value, I realize I was thinking differently than I should. I was looking at the appreciation of the value of my grandpa's coins, many of which were pulled from his till over the decades he ran a service station. All those quarters worth 25cents back in the day, now worth 23x that, at least! I guess from here, though, they won't necessarily appreciate at the same rate, and newer coins can't be expected to do anything like that.

Thanks for all the great ideas and advice!

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 Posted 10/08/2016  05:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I started collecting couns when young but over the years realised what terrible investments I was making... I therefore modified what I was collecting and would offer the following pieces of advice.

1. Try to buy for less than market value. This isn't easy but if you over pay you are off to a bad start.

2. Try not to collect common unremarkable coins unless they can be had for nothing (coin roll hunting etc) these are great as a hobby but never going to become the crown jewels.

3. Try to obtain the best coins you can afford, quality usually trumps quantity.

4. Take care to store coins safely and securely...never clean or pollish them.

For me this meant modern coins fell by the wayside and I put together a collection of ancient coins...mainly Greek, some Roman and a few Celtic, Byzantine and medieval.

I rather enjoyed collecting this way and built up a small collection of about 100 coins over a period of about 8 years... rather than 1000's of obscure and meaningless coins each one seems worth owning both in significance and value.

Now I don't know if my investment will rise or fall but I fancy I stand more chance than on my original collection and I get more pleasure looking through these ancient coins...always so much to learn and discover.

Good luck and enjoy the journey.

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 Posted 10/08/2016  06:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twslisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, David! I definitely see some benefit from getting coins from periods that interest me. It'd be awesome to hold a coin that could have passed through the hands of someone like Christina of Markyate or even Boudicca.
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i agree with many of the comments above. to me it sounds like you may want to look at working on a type coin set. I built denomination sets over decades like lincolns and Mercury dimes. filling the books was a challenge, however, it was not until I started my type set that I found satisfaction. finding the best example of a particular coin type is rewarding and if you do some homework before you buy you can make a small profit doing it. there are really very little coins today that are rare enough to ever appreciate in value that you can find in circulation. way different than it was lets say in the 60's. with your budget I would buy the best example of a particular type coin I could find. if you have to save for 2 or 3 months it would be worth it rather than just settle for a lesser example. the rarer the coin, the more chance it has to appreciate. if interested you would probably want to get a Dansco 7070 coin book. I would recommend posting the coins on this site for input as it sounds like you are novice and its very easy to buy something because it looks nice and it ends up not being worth anywhere near what you paid for it.

hope that helps
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 Posted 10/08/2016  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twslisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, panzaldi! I will definitely take your advice and ask questions before making future purchases, at least making sure the dealer I'm working with is trustworthy.
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