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I have never seen this before. I am very familiar with misaligned dies, but don't know if that dent means it was a clipped planchet or if it is just PMD. It seems to have a seam around it, but I don't think it is a magician coin. Also seems slightly thinner on side opposite date. All help is appreciated. Here are fast phone pics. I am really curious on ideas because I have never seen something like this. Obverse  Reverse  Rim by date  Rim by Trust  Thanks for looking. I can upload better pics in morning if need be. Update.. going to bed I was thinking about this and struck-thru crossed my mind as a possibility which I see coop mentioned and I value coop's opinion highly. Any other thoughts on this. Edited by brenpickle
10/22/2016 09:51 am
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Different for sure.  Misalignment seems evident. Don't think its a clip involved. The indent maybe due to the partial collar strike creating the railroad rim. Wait for an experts analysis on this one. Thanks, Doug. Follow up - is the obverse and reverse alignment normal? I'm trying to clarify in my minds eye the orientation of the edge image. Edited by Halo1st
10/21/2016 11:45 pm
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What's with the odd look to the surface of the coin? Looks bead blasted or something along those lines? John1  |
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Is the area near the date incuse or raised? I agree with partial collar and MAD. But PSD? I feel it might be a struck through if it is incuse. If it were PSD, then the opposite side would be pushed outwards. I'm not seeing on on the reverse. Different looking coin for sure. |
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Coop I was thinking struck-thru as well after thinking about it last night before bed. It is incuse, like a dent but like you said no sign on other side. Also the metal seems to have flowed that way, not been pushed that way at a later time. Could the collar possible have broke and a piece got stuck on the die or between the dies?
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10/22/2016 09:58 am
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It is often attributed to rim burs from other coins to make a mark like that. If it were a chipped collar, then that area of the rim would not be present. Something was in the chamber when your coin was struck. First time I've seen a struck through error on a MAD coin with a partial collar. What I don't see on the reverse should be a weakness where the dies were offset from the MAD. But the partial collar may have something to do with that?
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Just PMed Mike  John1 |
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MAD, indent, partial collar. I've seen many similar combo errors. Not sure about the sandblasted appearance. Could be just a trick of the light.
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Thanks Mike. Your comments are always welcome. Mike mentioned somthing I forgot about. That was lighting for coins. If you use a ring light for micro photos, the problem is you get too much light. A single light source is better. For full images they are nice, but the issue is still there. too many light sources. I think he hit on the head. The image was probably taken from a multi light source light like a cluster of LED lights. The problem is that that several lights remove light and shadow. They flood the coin and look like the image above. So a Single light source is better even for full image shots. There may also be an issue with glare with a lack diffused light. Glare will also make the image hot looking. So best to use a single light source with a diffused light.  Edited by coop
10/22/2016 11:03 am
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Thanks Mike, this is a really cool find for me out of a roll. The sandblasted look is mainly from my cell phone flash being so close to the surface I think. If wanted I can take pics with my DSLR.
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Wow, that is awesome! Who knows how much these things can sell for. Definitely worth more than face that is for sure!
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Wow! That's quite a find! Strange little pile of poo in his head, too.
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