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Deceiving Seller Of Silver Coins

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I bought a roll of 90% silver dimes on ebay. The seller stated they were brilliant uncirculated but only showed 5 coins in the roll. All of which looked great. When I got them, a significant amount (15 or so) have green spots on them. 90% silver coins have 10% copper in them so this must be verdigris. The seller did state he isn't a professional grader and offers no refunds. I still feel like this was a deceptive listing since he only showed pictures of the nice coins and none with green on them. I noticed a lot of them are darkly toned on the rims as well. Do you think this was deceptive or was this my fault? Do you think he green is verdigris? These are fairly common dimes so I highly doubt it's PVC damage...I'm thinking they were stored in a basement or attic. Thanks.
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 Posted 12/06/2016  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you are talking about Roosevelt dimes pre-65, there are very few worth much more than silver value, even in BU condition.

If you bought them at close to silver value, I wouldn't be too concerned. If you paid significantly more than melt value, say $70, thinking they were all pretty beauties, then just email the seller and politely state your case.

Of course after you pay the $6 or so to ship them back, if they accept the return, it might still be best just to hold them and count a lesson learned.
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 Posted 12/06/2016  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bigchip22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes a lot of people should educate them selves on how to sell coins and know what they doing
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 Posted 12/06/2016  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you bought them close to melt...no harm no foul.

But if you paid a hefty premium on them for BU coins I would contact the seller and advise
him you want a refund or you will open up a case and involve ebay and PayPal.
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 Posted 12/07/2016  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Spots or "green" have nothing to do with whether or not the coins are uncirculated. If they have no WEAR they are uncirculated and were as described. "Brilliant" might be questionable but "brilliant" has no truly defined meaning (kind of like "Natural" when dealing with food.) A like to the auction might be helpful.
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 Posted 12/07/2016  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Photos or a link to the auction and/or your cost would help us tailor our advice more specifically.
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 Posted 12/07/2016  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I should have given the seller the benefit of the doubt. I contacted him about the issue and within an hour he replied, apologizing saying he bought the coins from a trusted source and never opened up the full roll. He asked what he could do to make things right. I asked for a partial refund of $14 which put the coins right at $70 for me ($60 is melt so I thought that was fair). He agreed and refunded me right away. He had a negative feedback for not shipping in the past and had "no returns" in the listing so I thought he would be difficult. He was very understanding so I feel like this was truly an honest mistake. I will make sure to leave him a positive review. I probably wouldn't have bought them if I had known they had the green haze (and spots on some of them) but since he tried to do the right thing I'm not going to hold it against him. Lesson learned to not assume the worst. Do you think "dipping" these would help any or should I just leave them alone? Some look to be full torch.

Thanks everyone.
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 Posted 12/07/2016  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You did the right thing-contacted the seller to see what they would do, and they made it acceptable.

It is still a lesson learned, for a rather small premium.
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 Posted 12/07/2016  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm glad everything worked out for you in the end.

If the entire roll is solid date, I'd leave them as is.
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You did the right thing-contacted the seller to see what they would do, and they made it acceptable.
I agree. Always give someone the chance to make things right.
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 Posted 12/12/2016  07:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like it has worked out. Your not to far from what a
coin shop would sell them for.

If there is green on them, I would soak them in acetone for
a week or so. I save jars, like this pickle jar below.
Put in enough acetone to cover the coins. Put the lid on a leave it for a while. It wont hurt the coins.

After give them a good rinse, pat them dry. Let them sit
for at least a few hours before putting them in a coin tube.


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Put the tube into your dime roll box. Repeat until box is full,
then start your quarter box...... just a suggestion

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 Posted 12/12/2016  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twslisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO, give the seller a good rating, also. I always appreciate someone who makes things right, and with a "no return" policy, this one wasn't obligated to do so.

You ended up with a very fair deal!
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 Posted 12/12/2016  08:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twslisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By the way, does acetone get rid of the coloring on ASE's?
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 Posted 12/13/2016  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vergasond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm glad that the seller made things right, they look like nice coins.
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I only see a green tinge on some of the seller's pictures, not pitting that is characteristic of verdigris.

I have seen this before on 90% silver, and I have no doubt that a combination the presence of 10% copper in the alloy, and the right storage conditions before sale has resulted in what you have.

If they are all pre '65, and each individual coin is of the correct weight, then they should be all 90% silver.

Almost all common Roosies in MS60 or less should be bought for $ melt plus a very small premium.
Probably would have been better if you had bought them directly from a bullion dealer for their silver value only.
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