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This coin is known and thought to be in the category of Rare. People have mentioned that it can be compared to the brass 1859 Canadian large cent for rarity, I also believe this coin to be in that category of rare coins. The last count that I can recall was on the old Canadian Copper Coin Site that has been lost to overwhelming spam attacking the site. If I remember correctly we as members of that site had come up with 6 known 1881 ssn coins at that time. To start the count again today I will post a picture of mine I know about the 2 Bill and the 2 Roger have mentioned in other posts and I do remember 1 on this site that someone posted a picture of in nice f-vf condition. So is it time to do another count as it stands I know of 6 of these coins are there more out there? If that is all to date then I would like to think it is a very rare coin or very scarce at the least. Lets have a count if anyone has one of these coins   |
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Still no luck In finding one since it was mentioned by Bill and others on the old CCRS site. I must of looked at 1000's and 1000's of 1881's with no luck. The hunt is still on!
MG
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That's an interesting variety, love to find one but have checked the couple I have no luck, I didn't expect to find one because I know they're rare, but would be a nice surprise. Good luck to those hunting for them.
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I haven't been looking nearly as long as many of you, but I have never seen one. That's a great coin Papeldog! I sure would love to find one of them.
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I've only held one of these a few years back.. a great varieties collector brought it to a show for 2 of us to view......
It was a great one..!!
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Hey everyone, it has been a while, and its good to be back on the Coin Community boards. I can't be sure that you've counted me as one of the 6 owners of the 1881-H SSN variety. I used to post on previous boards, and was active, but have been busy with my teenagers and life in general over the last few years. I bought mine at a Jeffrey Hoare Auction in 2011, amongst a sheet of 1881 coins from Jack Griffin's original collection. I have since had my SSN coin certified as F-15 by CCCS. Per the pic, it is scratched on the obverse, but is otherwise decent. Very lucky to have it. I too have searched 100s of 1881 coins over the last 8 years, and never ran across another. Hen's teeth.   |
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Welcome back into the fray ChiTownRay I'm sure you'll enjoy it here.
I to was on the old sites that have passed and your handle seems familiar.
Did you have the same handle on the earlier sites?
Cheers, Bill
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Thanks Bill, yes, I'm using the same handle.
It's good to see many of the same collectors here.
I'll hope to see you at Torex, although I'm likely only there for Friday viewing.
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Hi ChiTownRay happy to see another SSN I don't recall your coin ever mentioned by anyone until this post and if it come from Griffin's collection yours could be one of the first recorded in his notes. The first one I saw was the one Okie posted years ago that started my search and I was drooling over Okie's picture of it.
So I would like to think yours is the 7th 1881 SSN on my list that I have seen or heard of.
Thanks for sharing your treasure with us ChiTownRay.
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02/11/2017 9:06 pm
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I'm looking at the D's on your coin ChiTownRay they look to me like they are a little different than the D's on my coin maybe its just me does anyone else see anything different?
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02/11/2017 11:14 pm
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They (the D's) look different to me, but they may just be a partially filled die. I, too, picked up some of Jack Griffin's stuff at the Hoare auctions (there were 3 and I could only get to 2). I was very heavy into my '59's at that time and may not have looked at the '81's ... rats!
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OK, so 7 it is. Thanks Papeldog, for your efforts here. This is a very worthwhile exercise, 6 years after the Charlton 2011 listings, because for most of us, that has been our only touchstone for understanding the likelihood of ever finding a particular coin. I've been chatting on another thread, with CV and Bosox, regarding the relative frequency of 1859 DP and TP 9's. Interesting stuff, and revealing. The thread was titled regarding DP #4. Have there been any similar discussions or polls taken for the cousin of 1881 SSN, namely, the elusive 1882 C2/C1 HPD? I call it elusive only because that coin has eluded me  I'm very curious as to whether it has been as hard to find for others. Regarding the D's on my SSN, I suppose they look a little more worse for wear than the one you list, especially at the top of the loops. I apologize for the poor color balance, as I took those photos before I purchased the USB-fed Lighthouse camera. I need to plug that thing in again for a week and properly catalogue my coins with a consistent "look" to them. These pics make the coin look cleaned, but really, it is a nice honey color, and doesn't appear cleaned. Best, Ray Edited by ChiTownRay
02/12/2017 09:51 am
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Yes 7 to date so far Ray.
I have been following that thread as well it is a big challenge to find all the 1859 DP9's and Tp9's I have most but not in high grades I'm still hunting 4 that are in the 65th edition.
As for the 1882 I have the OC2/OC1 in MS but like yourself I haven't stumbled over a OC2/OC1 punch doubling as of yet I think they are very few as well.
I think okie and zonad were doing study with this coin at one time but I'm not sure maybe okie will chim in on it.
also Dan in Crystal lake also had a website on 1881 1882 and 1884 at one time he had a little write up on it but that's gone now and I haven't heard or seen much of him anymore either since Canadian Copper Coins went down no one seems to correspond anymore
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02/12/2017 4:39 pm
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The 1882H Double Die is similar in difficulty to the 1859 TP9-1.
The 1882H Triple Die, however, is similar in difficulty to the 1881H SSN. I just sent two to PCGS (a VF30 and a VG8) and there are only 4-5 known.
I consider the 1882H Triple die THE rarest victorian penny variety of all. Far rarer than the 1859 Brass penny.
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02/12/2017 5:04 pm
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Might I ask, what is an 1881 SSN? Can someone please display the difference for us less read people :)
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single serif n ,,the N's in canada and regina have only half a foot at the base instead of a full foot
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