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Valued Member
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good afternoon all I was looking to see if you all could tell me a grade and value of this seated liberty I pulled from the ground yesterday. to me it looks really good but I'm no expert. thanks for all the help Im sorry if the pictures are rotated I saved them right way but may come out rotated still not sure why that happens   |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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well, heres the good news. the coin looks XF. the bad news, someone harshly cleaned the coin and significantly affected the value of the coin. a nice 1883 in XF would be around $25-30 range. I think the coin may have a value more in the $12 range. nice find
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Obv: XF45
Rev: Vf30
Net VF30 details, cleaned. $8-10.
It is more difficult to find this than the price implies. Congrats.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Cleaned the value away...  Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Parallel lines show up abrasive cleaning, otherwise a nice 'digger'!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree split grade, net VF-30, shame about the harsh cleaning.
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Valued Member
 United States
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this coin was only sprayed with a bit of water with really easy rubbing to get the dirt off that makes it a cleaned coin? most coins I pull from the ground that I find look this way. Should I leave the dirt on them for now on?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Are you doing like those two guys on Diggers do when they find a coin and start rubbing the dirt off to see what kind of coin it is ? That's what it looks like. I've noticed all your dug coins have that look.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The parallel and angled scratch marks on the front - especially visible to the right of Liberty in this pic - are what people are talking about when they say a coin has been cleaned. More of same marks are visible on the REV. It is common for people not familiar with the coin hobby to think that "shiny" means better. Making a coin shiny often means surface metal was removed to make the coin look shiny, but this results in a damgaged coin. Parallel marks like this are often put onto coins by people scrubbing them with a brush, or possibly the grains of dirt can scratch it in this manner when rubbing dirt off of it. Either way, metal is removed, the coin is marked up, and in the hobby this is classified as damage. I watch quite bit of metal detecting on youtube and cringe when I see some of the people out there just rubbing their coins on their pants/gloves/etc. Quote:
Should I leave the dirt on them for now on? To get dug dirt off but keep the value, the process must be done in such a way so as not to remove surface material of the coin. If you find another nicer coin, post it to this forum for advice on getting rid of the dirt. The people on this forum are more than willing to help. That way you will preserve the value of the relic. Sometimes the dirt will come off with a soak in distilled water. A soak in (pure) acetone cannot hurt the con at all and is a solvent that removes things like tape residue, glue, paints, etc. Xylene will get some things acetone won't. But again - feel free to post pics and ask! How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I've dug up silver coins that look like this. I wonder if the marks are not from the ground; stones and dirt moving against the coin during freezing and thawing conditions. (I live in Wisconsin where that happens a lot.)
Paul Bulgerin
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Bedrock of the Community
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VF-35 Details. Nice find!
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 United States
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When you dig up a coin, don't put it in your gloved (or even not gloved) hand and rub the dirt off so you can see what it is or what date it might be.
I see videos of people with metal detectors digging up coins and doing this ALL THE TIME and it just gives me the shivers every time I see it.
Those scratches look, to me, like that was exactly what was done to this coin.
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02/26/2017 10:25 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Rest in Peace
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Paul Bulgerin: depends on frost level/how deep coin was. 36" generally in upper Midwest somewhat deeper. Ground above FL moves slightly, but not enough to make cleaning marks length of coin. Below FL, hardly any movement unless in flood plain or earthquake zone. All it takes is a thumb swipe, to "see what ya got" and you're done for!
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Some dug up coins respond very well to dirt removal, simply by rubbing between the fingers with good old soap 'n water, followed by a good rinse in running water. Next step would be ultrasonic cleaning, then perhaps an acetone soak.
Ultrasonic cleaning can sometimes help.
If they are worn enough so that value does not matter very much, and they happen to have an ugly black patina, a carefully timed dip in a metal cleaner may help. Just be aware that metal cleaner will not only remove some of the patina, but also some of the metal of the coin as well.
With ancient coins recovered from ground burial, the professional museum coin preservators often use lemon juice, vinegar and olive oil, but this can take time, experience and acquired skill.
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