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Is This A Strike Error Or Tampered With.

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Looking through some old coins and wanted some advise on if this coin was cut or a strike error. My dad had it from the 60's. Thanks

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Looks filed down. Is it same size as a normal 50c? It is a 90% silver coin (1/2 of .715 ASW) but if cut down won't weigh as much as a normal coin. Is considered damaged, possibly used as a jewelry piece.
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 Posted 03/11/2017  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would like to see the reverse and confirm the coin weight if possible. Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 03/11/2017  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a small chance it is an error coin.

How does the size compare to a quarter?

There is a greater chance that someone messed with it. It's a shame, but people do weird stuff to coins.

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Hard to tell from pictures. Please weigh the coin...if struck on silver quarter blank, it should weigh approx. 12.5 grams. Please post reverse side of coin as well. I was looking for flow lines from lettering along the rim area. It looks like the I in Liberty has flow lines but hard to see from pictures. This could be struck on a quarter blank but more info needed.
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 Posted 03/11/2017  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldmike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It doesn't look round to me, so I'm thinking altered
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Not all wrong planchets are round, especially when the planchet is up against the collar when struck. I have seen some pretty oblong in shape. Without a "perfectly" round collar to expand into, metal flow will not expand uniformly into void areas that are missing the collar.
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It looks like a Kennedy half dollar struck on a quarter planchet.
The weight would tell us more.

If it is a half struck on a quarter planchet, it would be a valuable mint error.
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An edge pic of the Kennedy would be beneficial before any positive answer could be given as to what has occurred.
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I'm not sure on the weight Zimmy has. A 90% silver half dollar struck on a half dollar planchet would weigh 12.5. A coin struck on a 90% silver quarter planchet weighs 6.25 grams.
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to CCF fellow Michigander. Pics of the reverse and edge as well as weight.
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Thanks for all the replies. It is about a 1/8" bigger than a quarter diameter. This is the reverse size.

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Side image of the half. I don't have a scale to weigh it. Thanks again for replies.

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Can you weigh it and get a picture of the edge? If it ends up being the same weight as a quarter, you've probably got something good on your hands. I wouldn't make a big deal of the diameter being slighting bigger since quarters are struck in collars which would limit their outward expansion.

However, a thought just occurred to me -- it might be problematic that we see so much detail on the coin. A quarter planchet is thinner than a half dollar planchet, so it should appear more weakly struck than normal.

[Second thought- I just looked at pictures of certified halves struck on quarters and there is still a decent amount of detail. I compared a half and quarter in hand, and it looks like the quarter is only slightly thinner.]

Summation: weight and edge picture would be useful.
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Seeing the reverse of the coin clearly identifies it as a half struck on quarter planchet. Even without the weight, there are very clear signs of metal flow at the bottom edge of the lettering. Nothing I see would lead me to a different conclusion. Congratulations on your find. It's a very nice error!
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you can also see on the reverse where part of the strike happened right on top of the proto rim(well the whole strike actually did but you can still see it where UNITED is) See metal flow also like zimmy mentioned. Most rest of the proto rim was obliterated from the strike
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