Silver Dollars Rolls

It's just like unsearched rolls of wheat pennies and such. It is very easy to get access to older styles of wrappers and throw a common ms Morgan or even a common cc Morgan and throw in crap in the middle. If it looks to good to be true it usually is. Silver dollars were rarely in rolls, most were stored in bank bags in vaults for decades. The prices people pay for such junk is truly amazing. For that money people can buy graded higher end silver dollars.

Also don't let feedback fool you. There are a lot of shill bidders out there who intentionally win, and leave good feedback because they are in cohoots with the seller, aka a seller like greatsoutherncoin. Just be wary and careful with your money.

Thanks for the feedback, and that's definitely in line with what I have been reading. So what you are saying is no banks/collectors in the early 1900's put any Morgan dollars in rolls? There are no examples of this out there?

Does this apply to Peace dollars as well?

srs77, thanks! It does help and as I continue to research this, I'm reading more and more of what you are saying. It's hard to believe people are paying sometimes over 2 grand for these "unsearched rolls" on ebay. This happens every day too which is even more concerning.

I've spent the last two years frequently participating in on-line auctions(other than ebay). It becomes very easy to determine which outfits are smucks, those employing shills. Chicago and California for example seem to have MANY! They're easy to spot when the bidding begins. Checking this smuck's next auction...same item again for bids if not suckered previously. One item very rarely see in ANY of these auctions is rolls of silver dollars, Ike's maybe, no Morgan or Peace rolls. There are rolls of "Safe Deposit box" or "Estate" coins (lower denoms) as purported origin, in older wrappers, even cellophanes on top too. 95% are contemporarily put together, thoroughly searched, maybe an "ender", and here also is " Caveat Emptor"...for grins tried two, nickel/penny different outfits, both were quite common well worncirculated near-cull slicks. There won't be a third time for these. NEVER buy rolls on ebay, period.

Here is a picture of the roll I purchased. Looks convincing doesn't it? Anything jump out to you?

Jmkendal, thanks for your feedback on this. After reaching out to the dealer on ebay, they said something similar to this. I'll proceed with caution in any future purchases. What's your opinion on the roll above? I wish there was more information on what to look for in these potential old rolls.

ebay is in the business to make money. Unless it is so blatantly fraudulent that it feels like being hit upside the head with a 2x4 they won't step in. These "Unsearched" rolls are nothing of the kind of course but the descriptions and promises usually provide enough wiggle room to keep them slightly to the legal side. They do not specify whom they were unsearched by, they do not promise the key date will be contained etc.

The best ads are those that claim to be unsearched but guarantee some sort of content. How could they know that it will include any content other than the ends if it were truly unsearched?

Basically, if you are interested in an "unsearched" roll bid only on the end coins. For the hundreds of penny rolls that miraculously show a VDB obverse, silver of gold coin or some other special find on the end assume that that is the least valuable of the type shown and the best find in the roll. If the ender is worth the purchase price of the roll then you will be happy, otherwise you will be disappointed.

The only time I ever bought an "unsearched" roll was when the ender was a date I actually needed and the roll was priced less than what I planned on paying for that coin. The rest of the coins were culls, well circulated chum. They all ended up in my sorted/rolled hoard.

For dollar coins the same applies. Assume that the contents of the roll are much less desirable than the end coins.