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Pillar of the Community
United States
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So I'm out looking for an upgrade on my 1925-D Lincoln Cent. The one I have is an EF in late die state with a chance that it may have been cleaned at some point. I want something around an MS-63. I found this coin, graded at MS63BN, but everything (ob & rev) was mush! I'll post the obverse given with the listing and a link to the coin's listing.. I'd be very interested in what others think about such a coin. Have you ever seen anything like it graded so high?  This is the listing for the coin on the Bay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1925-D-MS63...AOSwax5YyyaP
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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No kidding, no whet lines either!
Looking at the slabbed photos ,If the reverse photo is of the same coin( which it seems to be) the reverse is rotated quite a bit!
Edited by Chase007 03/23/2017 11:57 am
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Valued Member
United States
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Where's the value in such a coin? A numeric grade on it makes about as much sense as a numeric grade on a rutabaga.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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That certainly shows the limitations of a single number that completely specifies the characteristics of a coin. A single number is not enough.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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There's nothing about that coin that looks like a 63 to me. Except maybe the "2".
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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That's a beauty actually! The 24/25 branch mint sets are some of the worst struck coins of the series. The branches relied on Philly for working dies. Due to a shortage of dies, both S and D over-used their dies to meet production quotas. This coin is graded accurately.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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There are two 63s and a 62 at http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/CoinIm....aspx?s=2561 that show far clearer details than this specimen. Just looking at the wheat stalks, there is virtually no detail here, while the PCGS images show full lines and grains. The obverse is somewhat better, but LIBERTY is so weak compared to the PCGS images that I can't believe the 63 grade is justified overall.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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As far as the TPG's go, quality of the strike only comes into consideration when you get to 66 and up....based on my experience. The primary things a TPG looks at: 1) Eye appeal 2) Luster Why? Because a grader only spends a few seconds looking at each coin and these are things that standout.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Wow! Thanks BadThad for this great information. For the new members here at CCF. BadThad is one of the best experts on Lincoln cents at CCF. He also invented, "VerdiChem" or "VERDI-CARE." Which is mentioned a lot here at CCF. This is no promo for the product but, a great respect for his knowledge about Lincoln Cents.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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It is probably a Grease Filled Die, and the Lincolns in the 20's have been noted not to have great strikes. I would say it was a 63
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Pillar of the Community
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So the coin I have in my album that looks like an XF/LDS is actually not a bad coin! Between the time I first posted this morning and now, I found another 25-D that looks fully struck and was better priced. I'll post it when it arrives next week.  That also explains why nice examples of fully struck '24 S & D are so hard to find at reasonable prices. Quote: Looking at the slabbed photos ,If the reverse photo is of the same coin( which it seems to be) the reverse is rotated quite a bit! That must be another common trait of 1925-D coins. More than half of the coins I looked closely at in my search (including the one I ultimately bought) display the same sort of rotation.
Edited by Biedercoins 03/23/2017 3:54 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Quote: This coin is graded accurately. Maybe so ,but I'll be dar gone if I'll ever own it . 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
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I agree with the grade given.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
Edited by BadThad 03/23/2017 11:52 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19942 Posts |
CC Scotty sold me this one he FOUND searching bags. I love him for that! It's a good strike for the issue. Obverse EDS:  
Edited by BadThad 03/23/2017 11:57 pm
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