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Bedrock of the Community
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Pretty sure this is the 1836 over 1836 There's another topic in varieties section for that. Just want grading opinions. Thanks a lot!   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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AU53 due mainly to flatness in hair. Reverse is better. Surfaces look a little washed out and may have had a dip. Surfaces look unusually mark-free.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
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AU50 on a good day! Most of the higher details are flat. May be XF45.
Edited by Mark1959
05/02/2017 7:12 pm
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XF-45 due to an overall wear free appearance, except on the high points where the coin exhibits considerable wear.
I agree with numismatic student, the coin does look to have been dipped in the past.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thank you all very much for taking the time to look and adding your thoughts and comments. I can tell you that this coin came from a 75 to 100 year old collection along with a number of other classic coins. A couple hundred bust and Seated coins. Cigar box stuff, grimy and dusty, just piled in there. It was probably a lesser valuable coin to the original owner who had a far better collection. It was to him at the time, what a circulated Franklin or worn Walker is to us these days. He was a prominent lawyer. His good stuff is long gone, but for us today, the average coin collector, these are desirable acquisitions. In CBH's, I ended up with about 10 Bust Half Dollars. I really doubt it was dipped. The man is dead over 50 years. Did they have dipping chemicals 50 or 75 years ago? I know that there was a time when coins were cleaned without regard to them losing value long ago. Anyway, my camera has yet to produce anything that looks like what I see in my hand. In this case, I didn't do anything but crop these pictures straight from my SD card. The images were taken in daylight with overcast skies at my windowsill today. My opinion was that it is XF45 at best but in original condition. I was tempted myself to do an acetone soak on these as they have grime trapped in the nooks and crannies. I think if these were cleaned or dipped in the past, that trapped stuff would have been worked on. There are no scratches other than contact marks on these from normal circulation. |
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Did they have dipping chemicals 50 or 75 years ago? Yes, 75 years ago was 1942 and acids were readily available long before then. I'd grade it AU50. I see little wear and high points not fully struck up. It's likely had a old cleaning of some type but looks problem-free as far as that goes. It's a pretty nice coin. |
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I think most of the flatness on high points is from strike. AU53. my first thought was lightly cleaned but market acceptable
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Did they have dipping chemicals 50 or 75 years ago? I I have been a collector for 58 years, and I can tell you that they were dipping coins 50 years ago. In fact for a long time in the 1960s (and probably before) through the mid 1970s, "white was in" and "toned was out." Large numbers of Bust Dollars were dipped white even in grades like Choice VF and EF. I owned one them, which was my first Draped Bust type coin. It was a 1799 in sharpness grade VF-35 (using today's standards, VF-EF back then) that was white. I paid $210 and sold it to a dealer five or six years later for $475. Today I'd still make money on it at the $210 price, and the price I'd get would not be much out of line with the market as I got back then. The coin had a decent look IF you liked "white silver coins." Edited by billjones
05/03/2017 09:36 am
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EF-45. Agree "white was in" in the '60s. Whole lotta dippin' goin' on.
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05/03/2017 4:43 pm
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I love this coin's look. AU-53!
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