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Differences Between "New" Proof ASEs

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I mentioned this in one of my other posts and I'm curious what others think about it.

I have 2 1986-S, a 1993-P and a 1994-P ASE ungraded proof coin. When I look at the 1993 with a magnifying glass compared to the 1994 or 86's, the details of areas like the exposed feather, just below the bottom right side of the shield, and above the end of the arrows, as well as the feathers on the back of the eagle's neck, look to be less defined then on the 1986-S and the 1994-P.

Also, I just received the second 1986-S today, and on the front around the year, there is fairly obvious tarnishing which when held side by side with one of the others coins, stands out quite readily.

As for the difference in detailing, is this to be expected with non-graded ASEs or is it possibly an expected difference based on the year of the coin, and the fact that a different coin die might have been used ?

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You are probably seeing different die stages on these coins. 1986 was the first year for ASEs and many of the early coins have vividly sharp details. The toning is simply a matter of how the coin was stored. It can be pretty or ugly, depending on your perspective. My 1986 UNC ASE has razor sharp details, but is starting to tone because it was stored improperly for many years (before I knew better). But, it isn't too bad.
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ok - so it sounds like it's not a major issue as such.

The tarnishing on the 1986 isn't wide spread and it isn't heavy, but noticeable. It's only in the front at the bottom around the year.

Maybe I'm being overly critical, but I just want to make sure...

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I wouldn't worry about being critical. Proof ASEs are collector coins and you should be happy with the purchase. I just get them because I like the design. If you don't plan to get them graded or sell them at a premium, I'd say you are OK.

Edit: My '86 is toning in the same place...
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Photos would be helpful. Many ASE collectors are particularly against milk spots and clouds. Some toning might be removed with pure acetone if there isn't damage to the surface already.
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A few of my older ASEs are toned as well. It can be avoided with proper storage but it's not unusual by any stretch. It bothers me somewhat, but not enough to replace them... yet.
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As for the difference in detailing, is this to be expected with non-graded ASEs

While people are not likely to submit a modern coin for grading that don't look good, I wouldn't draw the conclusion that what you describe is to be expected with non-graded ASE's. I have a complete collection and they all look great. I hope they'll stay that way.
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All ASE's will tone (tarnish) when exposed to the atmosphere. It is what silver does. If in a flip the edges can tone...in an album the same can occur.

Left out on a file cabinet this can happen...some collect tone coins and pay a premium


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Plus a lot of people do not no this but all the way back to the 1986 coin , Here we go again.
All three mints produced these ASE coins as one mint could not keep up with demand.
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