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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I know this isn't a Canadian coin, but I'm hesitant to post in the Australian error forum since it's rather quiet.This coin was lent to me to see if I can help with figuring out what is happening. The "ghost" of KGVI's head on the reverse is raised instead of incuse. The raised and recessed areas correspond to a proper obverse head, the image is just flipped horizontally. For example: on the reverse, the area where his chin meets his neck is incused. The kangaroo's ear has worn into the "head". It might or might not be some very weird PIDT - ones I have seen on pre-decimal pennies (and nickel dollars) are incused, and also more blurry with the ghost's details. On the reverse, I can see where his hair is parted, and the hair-part line is icused. It's harder to judge reverse detail weakening because of PIDT in a worn coin, so I'll leave that part out. PIDT the closest one I can think of (because I know this doesn't fit with a die clash or more complex stuff like counterbrockages), and it goes hand-in-hand with the worn dies, but I'm not entirely convinced yet. Here are some pics, I'll try and get better ones if needed when the sun comes up. It's very visible on the reverse, my pic didn't do it justice.    Let me know what you think. *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I'm not sure but, shouldn't the effects of PIDT cause a raised "ghost" of the opposite die's design? I've always thought of ghosting as raised and not incuse and now am questioning that.  Edit: error-ref was not really any help because, unless I missed it, it never said whether what was transferred was incuse or in relief. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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09/06/2017 01:48 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Ghosting is indeed raised and not in use.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Ghosting is indeed raised and not in use. I see you have the same auto-correct issue I do.  Anyway, thanks for the input! I assumed that, physically, the effect would put pressure on the opposing die and the die would then develop an incuse "ghost" then transfer a relief image of the opposite side of the coin to the planchet. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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09/06/2017 02:09 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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PIDT the closest one I can think of (because I know this doesn't fit with a die clash or more complex stuff like counterbrockages), and it goes hand-in-hand with the worn dies, but I'm not entirely convinced yet. Die clash,at least that's what I've been told for the last 50+ years.Common on WW11 Oz. Pennies,the Mint just churned them out and released them anyway. http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUSTRALIA-1...AOSwlcZZfKyEEdited by Basil
09/06/2017 07:46 am
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Is what I'm seeing here different with the incused/concave reverse on KGV pennies referred to as ghosting?
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Formerly nancyc
Australia
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Is what I'm seeing here different with the incused/concave reverse on KGV pennies referred to as ghosting? Nope. It is ghosting, nothing more. Fairly common on some Aust pennies. life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved
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Valued Member
Australia
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It is Ghosting. Very common on wartime issues as metals were scarce and not as strong as they should have been to cope with the pressure of a strike.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Ghosting,OK,i was always told it was a Die Clash. http://www.drakesterling.com/Custom...st_Coins.pdfEdit..i should add Dealers,at least in Sydney & Brisbane, sold these as "rare Die Clash" for Decades prior to ebay. ebay showed,like the 1920 DD and 1921 English,they are a relatively common Coin. Edited by Basil
09/06/2017 9:55 pm
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