1589 Lion Thaler Coin

If you attach 2 images, one obverse and one reverse, it would not need as much compression.

Here is my 1576. The last two digits of the date are sort of hard to read.

austrokiwi, why the focus on the date? For me, I am most concerned with a full strike (or as full as possible for these hand hammered coins). Here's mine:

To the best of my knowledge, the first mint year of this type is 1575.

Two more 1576 pieces posted.

very nice coins all. Here is my 1616 Lion daalder. It is graded VF-35 but I think it is lot sharper than most of the higher grade daalders I have seen.

I agree in part with this statement:
indeed 1576 - Hollands is a rather plentiful date and one of the explanations is that the city of Dordrecht (then the capital of Holland) minted this coin for more than a decade with the same date; the next date one can find from the province of Holland is 1589, that was the opener of this thread I believe

but this is not the first date, but a type 2 Lion Dollar (see Delmonte "The Silver Benelux # 831)

in fact, two types were minted before the type 2 Lion Dollars, in a brief period between november 1575 and mid 1576

type 1A minted during the last months of 1575 (Delmonte 829): the first had no date (this was perhaps a die mistake, directly corrected => only two or three coins are known to exist; but also the variety with date is very rare, Delmonte says R2

type 1B was produced during the first months of 1576, more common than type 1A but rare compared to type 2; Delmonte R

In both type 1A and type 1B, the knight on the OBV side is oriented to the left, while in type 2 (1576 and later) the knight oriented to the right
most of the early leeuwendaalders were made with weak strikes and imperfect planchets

After 1589, the other states (provinces) of the Republic joined in, so you can find Lion Dollars of Utrecht, Gelderland, Zeeland, Westfriesland and Friesland; in addition the Overijssel tree-cities (Kampen, Deventer, Zwolle) also made their Lion Dollars mostly in the first decades of the 17th century

the pictures below are from one of the best preserved type 1B coins (unusual in this quality) that was auctioned in the Netherlands about 5yrs ago

sorry I join this interesting thread so late, I am a newcomer




@realeswatcher
the coin for sale on ebay is NOT a type 1a from 1575 but a type 1b, minted in the first months of 1576 (see my two posts above)
the condition of this particular coin is poor so the date cannot be read anymore; in fact the seller of this coin should modify the information, as it is incorrect,

below are pictures of a type 1a from 1575, auctioned two years ago;
realeswatcher is right: it is difficult to find images from this prototype of the Dutch Lion Dollar on the internet