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1859 Indian Grading And Attribution

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Picked this up on ebay last week. I liked the obverse strike and I didn't have this variety. The reverse is excellent. Obv has a few hits. How about a grade and variety attribution? Thanks!


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MS63 and beautiful color and surfaces. Some obverse ticks limit it from a higher grade. Reverse is better. Premium for the grade. This is not a typical 63 and I would pay 64 money for it. You sure know how to pick them. .
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Looks like the Snow 3...


S3 1859, 18/18 (s) 59/59 (n).
Obv. 5: (LH) Wide repunching visible below the 1. Early die states show the ag on the 1 extending from the center of the 1. Additional minor repunching to the south below and indside the lower loop of the 8. Repunching to the north visible above the 5 and on top of the upper loop of 9.
Rev E: Late die stage: Die crack from the rim at 5:00 to wreath.
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63, a beauty!
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Wow, fantastic pictures.
Please tell your set-up.
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Superb beauty. Definitely a winner. Easy 63.
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i have a 65RD slabbed and this is really close to that. to be conservative I give this one 64RD. imo there is not enough hits to drop it to 63
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MS-64 RD.
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Good looking coin.
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It's a copper-nickel cent and doesn't get a rd or bn designation.
I'm betting the color looks quite different in hand.
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Wow.

Bodacious strike especially from an old die pair (flow lines, rim crumbling), even surfaces and a high-end 63 which like the Student I'd go over 63 money for. Somebody knows how to pick 'em.
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Yes, please. Very nice coin with excellent photos.
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Thanks for all the comments. I bought this for about $600.00 And yes it is the Snow-3 (S-3) which is scarce in high grade. The light I used is incandescent and I took the pictures with my Samsung S5 phone. I will be sending this to PCGS shortly and expect a grade of MS-64. I think the hits in front of the nose will keep it from 65. the reverse is near flawless when viewing it in hand. One advantage I have with grading is I have the coin in hand and can tilt it and put it under different light sources (sunlight, LED, incandescent and CFL). This light (incandescent) shows every mark visible. Will update when the coin comes back. Thanks
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It's a pretty coin and I'll be interested to see if it gets a straight grade.
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Another gorgeous coin. I get so jealous on this forum Good for you
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High end 63, possible 64. Nice pick!
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