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1882H Canada cent OBV1A? Note die cracks 2,10,12,13 OBV embossing above head die clogg N and O ? Is this OBV 1a   Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut.
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Thanks bosox
Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut.
"Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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Canada
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As bosox said, it's a 2. A 1 or 1a will have a smooth, rounded chin/throat and the neck truncation (tip)will end directly on top of the bead directly above the C in Canada .. a 2 will be between that bead and the one to the left of it. A 2 will also have a "dimpled" chin throat and not a smooth arc. A 1 will have a neck truncation that is sharp and comes to a pointed tip and almost touches the bead, while a 1a will have a very round tip and be further from the bead. You will also have 1a/1 Obverses where the truncation comes to a sharp point, but you can see the shorter, rounded underpunch if you look closely. A true Obv 1 can be seen by looking at any 1876. The '81's and '82's will be a mix of 1's, 1A's and 1A/1's. You will be surprised how relative few "true" Obv 1's you will find for 81 & 82 .. most will be 1A/1's.
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Considering Obv 1, 1a and 1a/1's only, so far I have been able to determine that 34% of 1881 and 26% of 1882 dies were Obv 1's
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Wow! .. a voice from the past! It's nice to see you up and around again, Dan, and looking at the coin sites to add tidbits of your research. For those of you who do not know, you now have 3 of the 5 man team who co-wrote the 2011 Vicky large cent variety section in the back of the Charlton guide ... all posting to this thread. We've known each other, at least electronically, for more than 15 years and used to meet fairly regularly. Dan used to maintain an excellent website of Vicky varieties ... the initial inputs are still there with valuable info, but hasn't been updated in a while. He also had a great blog site for the variety collector. Here's a link to the main site .. be sure to click on the internal links there as there is some info on some of the pages that you'll find nowhere else: https://sites.google.com/site/victo...entsite/homeEdited by okiecoiner
12/20/2017 06:48 am
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Thanks for that link to Dan's site Okie! I have been to his blog site, but didn't know about this website. Another nice resource!
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New reference info (for me) that's great...! Thanks for adding this link okie..
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Hi Dan. Welcome back. I think I knew intuitively and from my past counts that 1882H pure obverse C1 cents, although not scarce, were the harder ones to find. I squirreled away two or three in high grade, because there really are not very many high grade survivors left. For example, the Landon sale, had about thirty high grade 1882H cents. About twenty were obv 2 cents, a few were 1a cents, a few more were 1a/1 cents, and exactly one out of thirty was an obverse 1 cent.
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Yes, Rob, I thought the same thing. From the '81's & '82's that were Obv 1's of some sort, I thought that it was about 1 in 10 that were actually Exact Obv 1's .... and not 1a's or 1a/1's. I think at one time (10-15 years ago) a group of us got together and counted what we had and many of what we "thought" were Obv 1's were really 1a/1's. They aren't scarce by any means, but just nice to hold onto.
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 I am totally in awe of the amount of knowledge on this small question that I have asked. Dan I have never seen your web site till now ---more knowledge to drool over  Yes I do have an OBV1 as it has the apostrophe at A.   Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut.
"Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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Edited by bosox
12/20/2017 1:57 pm
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