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Venting... "FSB" Mercuries On Ebay

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Anyone else upset at the false "Full Split Bands" Mercury dimes listed on ebay that aren't fully split at all? I can't decide if it's the sellers trying to pull a fast one or they are just uneducated on what FSBs really look like? I got tried of writing the sellers to try to help them out to avoid upset buyers... there are just too many, and I think in the end, these sellers just don't care.

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Most don't know, what I call "the Cherrypicker crowd"...these are the folks that with a cursory reading of CPG are now expert graders just waiting to be hired by NGC. These yahoos just know, and inform us unlearned folk here on CCF daily of how much we DONT know about coins, especially theirs, right out of granddad's jewelry box! Absolutely certain Gramps wouldn't have bought such a fake now, would he?
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I moved your post to the appropriate section for the proper attention.
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Sorry Fuzzy, my bad.
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To be a Fully Split Bands, they need to be distinctly separated, and the tops of the bands need to be like the tops of loaves of bread.
That only happens with MS+ coins.
That is why "FSB" grades are only listed above MS60 in the catalogs.
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I'm with you Merclover , I see it all the time on E-Bay . I just shrug it off to stupidity .
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I'm sure it's a mix of un-educated sellers listing as such not knowing any better and educated sellers knowing better but looking to prey on trusting buyers. But yeah, it's wide spread along with harshly cleaned examples. Sometimes it gets tiring sifting through all the crap auctions to find the few goods ones. And I even have a list of excluded sellers from my generic saved search...
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I'm with you Merclover , I see it all the time on E-Bay . I just shrug it off to stupidity .

Yes and no. I suspect it is just not knowing exactly what FSB really means. You would be amazed at how many people just don't know it is referring to the Horizontal bands and not the vertical ones. Many times at coin shows when I ask if that Mercury dime has Full Bands, they show me that the vertical lines are clear. and these are dealers. They really just don't know.
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I'm with just carl, I have look at some local dealers and the bands just don't agree with me. ebay is full of it!
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Bands must be fully split and rounded to get the ridiculous premiums quoted.
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Buy the coin, not the description, eh?
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I ignore descriptions like "full bands" or "steps" or "bell lines" on e-bay. If the seller has great photography you can venture to make your own determination, knowing that a TPG may disagree.
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Bands must be fully split and rounded to get the ridiculous premiums quoted.

The problem really is not that they are or aren't fully split but which bands are the right ones. And that is the problem. So many don't know what is the bands being referred to.
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Well, that's even worse.
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4-5 years ago I probably bought 50% of my coins from ebay.

Today I spend 200-300% of what I did 5 years ago, but I can go many months without buying a coin on ebay. Even though I'm using all 100 search emails on ebay.

It's interesting to see how often I lose a bid on Heritage, Great Collections, or Stacks to see the exact same coin listed on ebay shortly after at outrageous prices.
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