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Can We Post A Complete Commemorative Collection?

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 Posted 03/24/2018  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree BadDog, the Jefferson $ is a handsome coin.
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BadDog - I agree completely. That portrait is amazing. Especially so in the DMCP. I've appreciated your modern collection a great deal. Thank you for helping us stay on track to meet our goal of posting a complete commemorative collection.
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 Posted 03/24/2018  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coronet1832 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And here's the uncirculated one. I did a really bad job with this photo - there's lint all over the case. The coin looks fine in hand.

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 Posted 03/24/2018  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefer518 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the reverse of the Jamestown.

The Jefferson is what they should have made the nickel look like. That is an outstanding Monticello!
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 Posted 03/24/2018  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that's what Monticello should look like!
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...stay on track to meet our goal of posting a complete commemorative collection.

Tommorrow's JFK is one of moderns still on my want list.

Hopefully one of the other folks that have been posting moderns has this coin and will be able to post a photo
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Jefferson also had a coin and currency set issued. It came
with a Unc Jefferson dollar, two dollar bill and a 1994 P matte
proof nickel. The matte proof nickel was only offered in this
set, mintage 167,703.

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 Posted 03/25/2018  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefer518 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like that set! A lot!
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It's a great set and I always enjoy seeing examples from GR58's collection. I wish the Mint and BEP would team up for more sets because they usually turn out pretty nicely.
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Jefferson also had a coin and currency set issued. It came
with a Unc Jefferson dollar, two dollar bill and a 1994 P matte
proof nickel. The matte proof nickel was only offered in this
set, mintage 167,703.


It is a nice set, and I did get it to keep my Jefferson nickel collection complete, but later eBayed the BU $1 (and, separately, the OGP without coins & $2 bill as well) It also highlights the fact that the Jefferson $1 was released in 1994, even though it is dated 1993.

From time to time, it seems the Mint employs this tactic of pairing a commemorative coin with another coin or medal (most recently with this year's WWI medals) and it was used with today's RFK commemorative as well. The Kennedy Collector's Set was issued in 1998 along with the individual proof and BU coins. It included a BU RFK $1 and a matte proof 98-S Kennedy half dollar. With a mintage of 64,141, this half dollar is the key date (not including varieties or errors) of the Kennedy half dollar series. The mintage of the BU RFK $1 was 106,422, so about 60% of that mintage was due to the 2 coin Collector's set. I can't post a pic of the $1 from this set, but here's the half dollar...
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This pairing tactic, was also used with the 1997 Botanic Garden commemorative (have to wait to May 24th for that one). It was again paired with a matte proof Jefferson nickel.

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I really like that Jefferson C&C set. It is one that I could see leaving together, rather than cutting apart.

The information on those low mintage issues from BadDog is also intriguing. Have the prices on those low mintage issues been falling after issue? I would think those would be ones that could hold there value, and actually increase. There are a LOT of collectors of the Kennedy issues.
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moxking,

The 2 coin Kennedy Collectors set was issued at $59.95. Recent ebay prices for the OGP set are in the $140-$180 range. The most recent ebay price for a PCGS SP70 half dollar was $475 (BIN) and for a SP69 it was $148.99 (also BIN). IMHO all of these prices are fairly typical of the current market.

Here are all the mintages from the Mint's webpage
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BTW, I really liked it when the Mint would summarize the commemorative mintages in this tabular format, but they quit doing so after the 2013 issues. I pinged them about it via email once, and was politely told that I could get later mintages from their Cumulative Sales Figures webpage. You can, but it's not nearly as easy as when they summarized it for you Plus, those stats start with 2015 reports, so you can only get the 2014 numbers as they were reported in the 2015 reports
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It's a great set and I always enjoy seeing examples from GR58's collection. I wish the Mint and BEP would team up for more sets because they usually turn out pretty nicely.


Thanks CK ... I like these sets too.

I have had 3 or 4 of the Jefferson sets, but broke them all.
FYI - If you watch these sets you can find one with a star
note. most times they are at a higher price.

If I ever pick one up with a star note, I would keep it and
not break it apart.

Also when the set is kept together, the reverse of the nickel
will tone. The ones I have seen are a darker tone.
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I thought I had a proof RFK, just looked at my albums and
that is one of the 8 pre 2012 commemorative dollars I don't
have.

Here is the 1998 UNC
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As mentioned above, the mint did issue a two coin set.
It came in in a two coin velvet box. I picked mine up
from a CCF member and sent in the JFK to NGC. I was very
happy with the results, it is my avatar coin.
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I consider the 1994 Jefferson nickel and the (above) JFK
half to be part of a must have three coin set. The third
matte proof (1990's era) came in a 1997 Botanic Garden set.
In that set there is a 1997 P matte proof nickel, mintage 25,000.
It is the key to a complete Jefferson set.
I know it is out of order .. but here is mine.
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Also when the set is kept together, the reverse of the nickel will tone. The ones I have seen are a darker tone.


Here's my example of the Jefferson nickel from the C&C set...
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I got this in the secondary market more than 20 years after issue and reverse toning is very evident. If you see one without toning, then it was either removed early on or cleaned (or if you prefer, professionally conserved).

Unless you don't mind the toning that will occur, I wouldn't recommend leaving the coins in the OGP when the Mint uses this type of package.
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