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New Member
United States
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It goes all the way across from 8 to 2 oclock. Is it a lamination error? 
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Valued Member
United States
254 Posts |
Is it possibly glue?I've been told it's glue or something and I was like no way but really inspecting it found these guys were on the money
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Pillar of the Community
United States
717 Posts |
Interesting. The coin is worn, yet the lines you mention look defined. Maybe it is glue or something similar.
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New Member
 United States
40 Posts |
Quote: Is it possibly glue?I've been told it's glue or something and I was like no way but really inspecting it found these guys were on the money I don't believe so, the top crack is pretty well defined
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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What does the reverse look like?
I'm pretty sure it is not a lam.
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
Edited by spru 04/24/2018 11:54 pm
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New Member
 United States
40 Posts |
Quote: What does the reverse look like? worn but normal.
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New Member
 United States
40 Posts |
Here's a miserable attempt at a closeup.. 
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
Possibly a planchet flaw.
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New Member
 United States
40 Posts |
Are there any experts in the community that I could send this to for w closer look? Or should I go through a pro like varietyvista? Just seems like an awesome error if it is indeed a legit error...
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Rest in Peace
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Bambam, first off never have  ! Try an overnight soak in acetone( in your garage, covered!) Then see if it loosens or has disappeared entirely. If glue or adhered material should come off. Now, the first concentric line(across face) is a coin contact line, rim of another imprinted through force(intentional or otherwise?). The second is jagged semi- circular which does lend to surface substance or "toning" an environmental issue. Laminations are jagged edged yes, but more linear, never curved, and are usually an alloy mix error of which you coin shows no indication of. Try the soak before wasting the money to attribute. 
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New Member
 United States
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Thanks CrazyB, will try that first
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It kind of looks like a struck through? (Weak one) it might have worn down a bit from circulation.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3668 Posts |
I find this area of your coin interesting:  Whatever is directly beneath the "S" of "TRUST" is extremely linear, and it is bisected by the curve. To me, that suggests at least two different things are going on with this coin. Regarding the lower curve, I'm with Crazyb0 and coop, either it is struck through or was post-mint impact. This curve appears to cross the rim on both ends, and this is particularly evident below Lincoln's shoulder. Regarding the linear shape below "TRUST," my hunch is an alloy issue, if there isn't a blob of glue on the surface. Pre-1917 Lincolns frequently have some weird chunks of improperly alloyed metal embedded in the coin, typically appearing as "L" shapes or miniature bars of metal. (IIRC, the mint changed contractors in mid-1916 for the raw copper used for cents.) The outer curve is harder to pin down. Again, if it isn't a blob of glue, there are several possibilities: improper annealing, post-mint exposure to heat, or metal flow during striking if the inner circle is struck through are a few that come to mind. On this second circle, there does appear to be a crack in the surface above Lincoln's head. Is there any way to see a photo of the reverse and a photo of the edge of the coin from about 9:00 to 1:00 (Liberty to Trust)?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
If it is a struck through it should be incuse on the fields and dev. If it is an alloy issue then the fields and devices should be norm, without disturbance. From the images the furthest west area looks incuse? The mark that is over the head looks like a left a stain laying over the coin. You could compare it carefully with another coin? If so, that would be a stain and not incuse across the coin. That is what I'm seeing in your images.
Edited by coop 04/28/2018 2:08 pm
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New Member
 United States
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Well after a 36 hour acetone bath, the front looks essentially the same, no glue.
coop/fortcollins I will work on some closeups when I get home this eve, thanks for your help everyone!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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An interesting coin. Close up pictures of the areas in question would help. Here's my opinion:
- The circular line that goes through the R in LIBERTY and Lincoln's head looks like PMD to me.
- The jagged line could be many things. Close up photos will definitely help. It could a strikethrough, a planchet flaw, or post mint heat damage.
Will wait for close up pictures. 
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