Once You've Read This Thread, Your Ideas About Coins Will Change.

Sometimes, I do appreciate the Earlier Die States, especially when I'm trying to find an RPM or a Doubled Die. But, I also love Later Die States too, because that's when the die starts to break down. I love collecting Cuds and all of that stuff. This is a very good and informative thread. Although, I don't care what Die State my coin is in, because it doesn't matter that much to me.

A lot of information in one topic.

You can save it in word or copy the images. I was thinking of making the images into a movie clip. Just to see if it jumps around or just show the changes step by step.

Thanks for this Coop

Nice work on this @coop!

You're very welcome. Take your time Coop. No need to rush it.

Started on the RPMs, die breakdown and remembered I wanted to look up to see if there were any VLDS die states on the 1955 DDO-001. Spend most of the day on this. But found out I can see two marker issues in the EMDS, MDS, LMDS, LDS and LLDS die states. The differences were just passing, so I had to divide then up more. The markers were N-S die scratches, and a die dot issue. They varied because the scratches are thin and were there, and faded away. There is a die dot that was very small and got larger as the die state changed and then the reverse die must have been changed because the die dot issue was gone. But no more after that die state. They must have discovered the DDO and pulled it from production. So what does that mean to collectors? With out a full run, the die was not used to retirement. So instead of one million coin struck with that die, it was reduced to probably 1/2. But here are some more images and information:







So what does all this mean? That the reason these are so hard to find is that they were lower in number. Probably in the 500,000 range. Just like the 1969-S DDO-001 the die was pulled. But now, we have some new markers to compare fakes to see if they are real or not? Die scratches and die dots are something the counterfeiters don't know about when they make their fakes. and just like finger prints they would have a hard time trying to copy them. And the die dot issue I figured out a few years ago. But probably only ones who have read the forums, I've been on, know about the die dot issue. But now, we have that also. The die dot is also hand to identify sub die states. Well onto to the next breakthrough.