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1916-1917 Quarters. Type One And Type Two What Is That All About?

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1916-1917 Quarters. Type One and Type Two What is that all about?

The 1916 coins were spectacular that year. The designs had more precision that year. The quarters had a controversial obverse on the 1916 and some of the 1917 quarters. They had design Liberty with an exposed breast. Part way through the second year the protest about this made them change the design part way though the year. So they have a Type one and type two that year, 1917. The design had a flaw in it. The area around the date was affected faster than the had anticipated. The date was large, but this continued to be an issue through the whole series. But people collected they type ones because of the issue. But now, it have to read the dates on the coinage. But there is still a premium price for the type ones. But how can you tell if you have a type one. By looking at the reverse of the coin.:
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Now you can figure these out a lot easier if they are a 16 or a 17.
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Looks easy enough. So the designs were different on the 1916, 1917 type 1 and type 2. So looking for the type was easy. But nailing down what year you have on the type ones were a hard thing to do sometimes if the coin had the date worn down on it. So what can you do to tell which is a 1916 or 1917 type one?
As I mentioned earlier, the designs were slightly different from the 1916, 1917-1 and the 1917-2. So knowing what to look for would be a great aid. Guess what, I have made an educational set of images to do this if you run into a type one.
1916 Standing Liberty quarter. Type 1 obverse:
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1917 Standing Liberty quarter Type 1 Obverse:
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1917 Standing Liberty quarter Type 2 obverse:

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I don't have the current pricing for the 1916 or 1917 type ones now, but I'm sure someone will find it after reading this thread.
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Thanks Coop. Fantastic wealth of information.
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Excellent illustrations on type 1 & 2 SLQ's .
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The quarters had a controversial obverse on the 1916 and some of the 1917 quarters. They had design Liberty with an exposed breast. Part way through the second year the protest about this made them change the design part way though the year. So they have a Type one and type two that year, 1917. The design had a flaw in it. The area around the date was affected faster than the had anticipated. The date was large, but this continued to be an issue through the whole series. But people collected they type ones because of the issue. But now, it have to read the dates on the coinage. But there is still a premium price for the type ones. But how can you tell if you have a type one. By looking at the reverse of the coin.


Very interesting and very helpful information Coop! Another thing I didn't know about. Thank you for sharing it!
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Great stuff coop
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Another awesome lesson from coop, thanks!
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Great discourse as usual, thanks!
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The "key" to this short-lived series is the 1916, thanks to its low mintage of only 52,000 coins.

Adding design changed from type 2a to type 2b in 1925. Date was recessed to help prevent wearing. Thanks, Doug.

http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Hierar...erty+Quarter
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Thanks Coop for the difference pictorals. Been wondering just what those fine points were, knew the "stars" trick of the reverses, but not the date references. Much needed reference!
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So the images were from ebay on the circulated quarters saying they are 16 or 17. So what are they for sure? Let's see if you know?
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All three example pix are 1917 T-1's I think. Hair tail sharp(thin), rivets solid and no stars below eagle on reverse. Did I get that right?
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Correct. The rivets were my first clue.
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So I have these three heavily worn quarters, one from each mint, from what I have picked up on this informative thread I can see that they are all 1917 T1's.

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You've figured it out.
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Thanks, that's great information! The head position and strength of the rivets are especially helpful. Here's a dateless 1916 SLQ for comparison:

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So how did he know it is a 1916? Class...
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