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LMC 1.4g I Think Is Split Planchet, Please Confirm

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 Posted 08/28/2018  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's an in-collar uniface strike on a split or rolled-thin planchet (probably the latter).
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 Posted 08/28/2018  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Mr. Diamond
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 Posted 08/28/2018  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stoneman227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll repeat that , thankyou sir.
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 Posted 08/28/2018  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chase007, how much did you pay for that error coin?
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Cool looking error.
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Thank you 11997755
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Quote:
how much did you pay for that error coin?

Sorry E/V I missed your question earlier, I rather not elaborate on that.It wasn't much.
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Quote:
Sorry E/V I missed your question earlier, I rather not elaborate on that.It wasn't much.


That's okay. I'm glad you got a good deal on it though!
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 Posted 09/16/2018  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robmck1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am curious why no one thinks this is a split planchet, split after strike. it has the same characteristics as a split (after strike) planchet with a strong reverse strike and a smooth uniface and a properly formed rim.
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the obverse wouldnt usually have a properly formed rim if it were split after striking, and you wouldnt see ghosting of the memorial on the obverse side.

Look at the War Nickel coop posted, it would have to look like on of the two sides of that coin(more likely the right(thicker) side)).
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 Posted 09/16/2018  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robmck1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Canada 1 cent split planchet after strike. ghost image is visible and rim is formed.


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edit: added straight on pic and weight pic

I have been wondering if anyone can identify the difference between a "split after strike split planchet" and a "brockage on a split before strike split planchet". can anyone here tell the difference? I have been told by other experts that you can't tell the difference.
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Judging by error ref, it seems like the rim shouldnt be formed for it to be split after striking, you'd also parallel striations on the split side: http://www.error-ref.com/split_plan_after/

I was mistaken on the ghost image, but it seems like the ghost image would be on top of the memorial rather than the memorial being on top of Lincoln.

I dont know how canadian cents were made, but I wonder if the upsetting process is different maybe? are you absolutely certain that cent isn't also a die cap strike through or uniface strike?

Either way, I would trust MikeDiamond's opinion on this, he's one of the best experts in the error field.
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robmck1967, the second image at that angle is nice, but another image straight on may aid a bit more. Also the weight may answer some of your questions as well. Thanks, Doug.
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added requested pics above...
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I don't know Canadian coinage but your coin is not what I would expect from a split afterstrike coin. It almost looks like a fairly early capped die strike on a rolled thin planchet(just a guess). A split after strike coin should show the internal structure of the coin metal like the Buffalo nickel in my pic. The cent on the left was split before strike.
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