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Hi everybody, I am writing for your help. Madden wrote in 1877 ( https://books.google.ro/books?id=gg...iety&f=false) that there are 4 coins which I need for illustrating my college thesis: - coin 1 -- no mention of mint -- obv CONSTANTINVS P F AVG or IMP CONSTANTINVS AVG -- rev MARTI CONSERVATORI: the bust of Mars with helmet adorned with monogram - coin 2 -- PTR in exergue -- obv IMP CONSTANTINVS P F AVG -- rev MARTI PATRI CONSERVATORI, showing Mars helmeted, standing holding spear, and loaning on a shield on which Chi-Rho_noP; in the field to the right A ; to the left S. - coin 3 -- RP in exergue -- obv IMP C CONSTANTINVS P F AVG -- rev SOLI INVICTO COMITI showing naked figure with cloak over right shoulder, crowned with rays, standing looking to the left, raising the right hand, and holding in the left a globe, in the field to left Chi-Rho_noP. - coin 4 - no mention of mint - obs CONSTANTINVS MAX AVG - rev GLORIA EXERCITVS. Just one soldier standing facing, looking to the right, leaning on a spear and a shield; in the field to left a cross If anybody has these coin images or knows where to find any of them, I would be most thankful! servus, Claudiu |
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Welcome to the board. You can also use the advanced search function at Coinproject: http://coinproject.com/basic_search.phpIn the dropdown for "Type," select "Roman Imperial." I think you only need to deal with the "Obverse Legend" and "Reverse Legend" fields. Overall Coinproject's search function is very temperamental. The fewer fields you fill out the better - although, of course, you can try mintmarks (for coins you want with specific mintmarks) or cities. Using the fields for your first description brings up this: http://coinproject.com/search_commo...ubmit=SearchEdited by Kamnaskires
09/01/2018 4:16 pm
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Thank you Spence for the fast reply! Really appreciate the help!
I ran a search in RIC 6, 7 and 8 of that database and came out empty: the symbol from Mars's shield is missing.
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Thank your very much Bob! That tool is great! I will play around with it and let you know if I find any of them. Thanks again!
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Not my strongest area but
I don't think that a Mars reverse exists with that type of monogram
Many of the coins of Constantine were strictly pagan in type. Christian symbols become common after Constantine and I have never heard of them used along side of Roman gods
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Many later Christian emperors used the image of Victory too alongside Christian symbols
By Roman gods I was referring to the "Olympian" gods
Zeus Hera Poseidon Apollo etc
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Quote: the database worked: I think I found one of them (coin 1) if "monogram" means overimposed X and I: http://www.coinproject.com/siteimag...-Z7479LG.jpg all others aren't there Madden wouldn't be the first numismatist (or the last) to see what he wanted to see... Edited by Kushanshah
09/01/2018 7:43 pm
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@ echizento and @jbuck
Thanks for the warm welcome!
To "well-come" we say "well-found" as a polite and sincere response.
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@FVRIVS RVFVS
Oh, ok, cannot argue with that, I too have not seen such associations, I was not looking for them specifically, my interest is Constantinvs Maximvs, I am trying to understand the reasons for some of his actions
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@Kushanshah
Absolutely right! Personal bias is an annoying confounding error. Plus, those events took place 17 centuries ago, when people and society functioned differently, therefore interpretation bias is around the corner even if the interpreter is not personally biased.
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Finding the reasons behind the actions of Constantine at this late date are difficult at best to fathom
While Constantine surely promoted the interests of the Christians he did not aggressively do so but by the "Edict of Toleration" sought to remove the restraints on them. Edward Gibbon points out that within a generation of the edict that while all religions were to be tolerated that extended only so far ! If you were Christian your religion needed to adhere to the official "orthodoxy". The penalty for heresy in the Church was death ! Many early adherents to variations in doctrine were forced to flee the empire and gave birth to early communities of Christians in places like Mesopotamia and lands beyond the Roman frontier in Europe.
Often forgotten is that when St Augustine of Hippo lay dying in a city surrounded by an army of Vandal barbarians those barbarians were flying banners that bore the Christian cross ! They were Arian Christians converted by exiles from Rome in Germania.
When the prophet Muhammad first learned the stories of the Bible from Jews and Christians in Medina it was from people exiled from their own homelands for religious beliefs !
Finally it should be remembered that just like his father Constantius I, Constantine the Great was actually deified by the Roman Senate ! Unlike his father he was supposedly baptized while on his deathbed by a Christian priest. Whether he was actually still breathing at the time is unknown.
What is known is that the priest was an "Arian" Christian priest
The truth at this distant time will ever be elusive
Edited by FVRIVS RVFVS
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Posted 09/01/2018 4:11 pm
the database worked: I think I found one of them (coin 1) if "monogram" means overimposed X and I: 
all others aren't there
