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Note: It's midnight so I'll upload pics in the morning, Here's the story towards the end of a penny box I pull out a Wheat penny ears back. It exhibits a silver colour to it which I quickly determined was steel. I flipped the coin over onto the 0bverse and was surprised to see the date of 1944. Reasons I think it's authentic, Within steel cent Weight Tolerance: 2.9G. Exhibits heavy rust and a softer strike. Not plated, multiple layers of rust can be viewed. Reasons it scares me: It's not magnetic. However, that doesn't mean much. I'm sure we got someone else who knows about physics on here to back me up. When a small magnetic mass has a high oppositly charged magnetic wave passed over it, it's magnetic strength decreases with time. Similar to how a hotel keycard can get wiped by your phone. Anyways I'll post pics tomorrow morning, and eagerly await your responses to why I'm wrong  . |
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If it's not magnetic then it's most likely a copper cent that has been plated with aluminum, or coated with Mercury.
Hope I'm wrong!
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Bottom line, U.S. Minted Steel Pennies are Magnetic. Here is one I found several years ago. it is also Magnetic. Dan   |
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If its a true 1944 steel, which I heard a few escaped the mint, it's probably worth as much as your house....
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A lot of '44s were zinc plated, and so are non magnetic.
This '44 very indistinct detail around the neck area.
Perhaps a better picture may help.
Reverse looks to be quite OK.
That is why I feel a better picture (different lighting angle?) may help.
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I also have a Belgian '44 2 Cents, but they were made from planchets intended for '43 zinc coated steel Cents.
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The two 4's are a different size.
Don't know if that's significant or not.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'll be looking forward to seeing your pictures.   Errers and Varietys.
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The date looks very odd to me from the get go,thinking fake.(referring to Panthers coin) John1  Edited by John1
12/01/2018 10:21 am
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John1, that wasn't my coin pictured above that was Panther's, This is mine: note the browning is oxide rust meaning it's going to have a more brown then reddish tint.    As requested, a picture of the neck  And for those who know science this is the equation that shows of loss of magnetic properties on low mass metaloids #8706;B #8706;t = #8722;#8711; × (η#8711; × B) = η#8711;2B #8722; (#8711;η) × (#8711; × B) . |
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If it's not attracted to a magnet, I'd be suspicious.
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Not attracted to a magnet and the weight is slightly out of tolerance for a steel cents and with the wear not unheard of for a low end copper cent. Not magnetic = not steel.
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My free opinion as a numismatist for over 55 years - not a genuine steel 1944 Lincoln Cent. Regardless of your equations, a genuine steel Lincoln Cent will be attracted to a magnet, strongly attracted. A steel plated copper Lincoln may not be attracted to a magnet, or have a very weak attraction. I speculate you have a steel plated coin. |
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GrapeCollects, I have $40 worth of wheats that I am going through and I've had eight that look just like that. Exhibits rust (environmental toning) and all copper.
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I've posted this in other threads, but the plating is likely white brass, Cu-Zn-Sn typically in 56-16-28 alloy for electroplating. It's cheap, quick, easy, and bonds exceptionally well to bronze. Thousands of 1942 and 1944 cents have been plated with white brass.
The easiest way to solve the issue for certain is a specific gravity test. Specific gravity of a bronze cent should be about 8.66 and of a zinc plated steel cent should be around 7.75.
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Posted 12/01/2018 01:12 am
