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Any One Else See The Mint Made A New Rarirty With The 2019-S Reverse Proof

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The Apollo 11 half dollar set has a reverse proof Kennedy half dollar.
Mint site says 100,000 product limit & 750,000 across all half dollar products.
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It's discussed here, with pictures:
http://goccf.com/t/333287
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100k is far from a rarity
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100,000 coins that are mostly gonna be 68's, 69's and a scattering of 70's are not gonna be "rarities" by any sense of the word.
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It is a nice looking coin though.

I like mine, even though it probably lost value when I drove it off the lot received it in the mail.
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As of 01/27/2019 the adjusted net demand = 69155. There was an article in one of the email blurbs about how none of these sold out yet - https://www.numismaticnews.net/arti...fa-nl-190201. Might be interesting to see how the numbers are after this Tuesday. Seems like it's always the demand side and not the supply side that determines how "rare" anybody thinks these things are. 2016 National Park Service UNC half comes to mind.
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Agree with the above as to a rarity. However, the reverse proof Kennedy half by it's self could be considering the mintage numbers compared with other Kennedy's. A check of the U.S. mint's upcoming products schedule shows no plans for a reverse proof set as that of 2018. So those who specialize in these will most likely drive up the price accordingly. A rarity? The "coin dealers" on television are already gearing up to make it so. At outrageous prices to boot.
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This is not a rarity due to the fact that none of the modern USA mint products will ever again be rare.

Lower mintage - for sure - but the long term demand for 10's of thousands of these coins is not going to demand rarity coin prices.

I suspect - as jbuck correctly asserted - that all the folks who purchased this coin as US mint price will find within a year it can indeed be had at a lower price on the secondary market.
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Agree with the above as to a rarity. However, the reverse proof Kennedy half by it's self could be considering the mintage numbers compared with other Kennedy's. A check of the U.S. mint's upcoming products schedule shows no plans for a reverse proof set as that of 2018. So those who specialize in these will most likely drive up the price accordingly. A rarity? The "coin dealers" on television are already gearing up to make it so. At outrageous prices to boot.


The TV guys call basically everything a rare. Technically you could argue it's one of the keys to the Kennedy series, but the problem is it's a special finish. A lot of series builders don't consider special finishes to be a part of it or only are interested at low prices.

The other issue is that unlike the business strike ones and the old circulation ones, the grade range should be tighter on the special version with an almost 100 percent survival rate. So even if you try and argue it's the key by mintage numbers, it's going to be one of if not the most available in high grades
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I suspect - as jbuck correctly asserted - that all the folks who purchased this coin as US mint price will find within a year it can indeed be had at a lower price on the secondary market.


It's a long term trend. IMO, the mint needs to seriously cut back the mintages - say 20,000. Low enough to create a supply and demand issue. It would help the coin collecting market by adding interest and competition both short and long term.
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It's a long term trend. IMO, the mint needs to seriously cut back the mintages - say 20,000. Low enough to create a supply and demand issue. It would help the coin collecting market by adding interest and competition both short and long term.


Absolutely. At the very least for a product or two a year to give people something to really be excited about which in turn would help other products.
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It's a long term trend. IMO, the mint needs to seriously cut back the mintages - say 20,000. Low enough to create a supply and demand issue. It would help the coin collecting market by adding interest and competition both short and long term.


I may be mistaken, but I don't think they care about this. They want profits.
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You call the reverse proof a key, but if you look at the mintages you'll see that the uncirculated is currently running about one third the mintage of the reverse proof.

Nevermind I was thinking about the commemorative half and you were talking about the reverse proof Kennedy.
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I may be mistaken, but I don't think they care about this. They want profits.

Remember the Mint is not there to make collectors happy. They just want their money.
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Week ending 02/03/19 adj. net demand = 84349. Looks like they might sell out after all. According to Numismatic News, the set sleeve is misprinted (lists only one designer), mint has ordered new packaging, and at least one customer is disappointed because "enhanced reverse proof" apparently means Kennedy's profile is satin finish, not mirror-like. Question is if they are all like that.
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