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My S-VDB Is Off To PCGS

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Poor BadThad, no Lincolns to look at!

So, I'll post this coin. I'm taking advantage of the PCGS Collector Club special to get my S-VDB graded for "free" (meaning I pay $18.50 for return shipping, plus my cost to get it to Newport Beach). This looks like a nice, no-problem mid-grade cent to me; hopefully PCGS won't find a reason to send it home in a bag!

Any grading opinions and/or comments? It will be a few weeks before I find out what PCGS thinks, but I'll post the outcome then.

PS: HABIB, I agree the obverse streaks look like the woodgrain effect . I don't see any hairlines that would suggest an abrasive cleaning. Hopefully the color variations on the reverse are normal toning and won't raise the red flag at PCGS. We'll see!

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 Posted 08/08/2008  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks VF30. I'm concerned that the lower half of the reverse looks cleaned in relation to the top and could get bagged.
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I hope those horizontal lines on the obverse is just the way its toned also because the way it looks in the picture it looks like it has been cleaned with some sort of abrasive material
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 Posted 08/08/2008  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obverse looks woodgrained; if they graded on the reverse it would be a lock for 40, I think it makes 35.
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LOLOLOLOL

Thanks for the fix! This coin is EF40, but the obverse is a bit worn. I suspect PCGS will come back with VF30-35.

They may not like the uneven toning on the reverse....so, pray they don't bodybag it. Based on the pictures, I don't think it was intentionally cleaned. That's hard to judge unless you have the coin in-hand. We have to remember that circulated cent coins can have horrible lives. More often than not, a "cleaned" coin was not purposely cleaned, but just abused at some point....like resting in the bottom of a car cup holder for 5 years. LOL
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 Posted 08/08/2008  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BadThad- ANd don't forget how many coins have sat in wishing wells and fountains in shopping malls and parks over the ages.
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 Posted 09/03/2008  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCGS emailed me to report that my submission was done so I checked the grade on-line. I'm pleased to learn they graded my S-VDB as VF35 (brown). Apparently they didn't see any problems with the color or the woodgrain effect.

I'll take it!
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 Posted 09/03/2008  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent! Dang, I should work for PCGS....at least for Lincolns. LOL Congrats!
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Sorry for the late reply. What a very very nice 4 digit coin James!! Well done.

If you don't mind me asking, did you pay VF money for this, or did you get it at a steal with someone thinking it may be cleaned?
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Hi Tighe,
I'm into this coin for about $950. A local dealer had it in his inventory for several months before I took the plunge. I thought it looked like a no-problem coin and I'm pleased PCGS didn't disagree!

I traded in a 1912-S Liberty nickel plus cash; the nickel had been an ebay purchase that didn't look so nice after I had it in-hand. The dealer was willing to give me credit equal to my purchase price toward the S-VDB. I'm happy with the deal!
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Congrats on getting it in a PCGS holder.
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Congrats! I had a feeling the coin was original. Old copper sometimes tones in very strange ways. I've seen other Lincolns with the same reverse toning where half is toned and the other half is not. Great picup!
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 Posted 09/05/2008  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add groganking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to say that Lincolns are fascinating, although I don't collect them. I followed this thread and was sure this coin, although I like its look, was going to get bagged. I also don't necessarily understand the Red v. Brown distinction very well, but I would assume based on the obverse photo, that this should at least be RB. In any event, congratulations.
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Hi Grogan,
I've always had problems capturing accurate color with my Sony Cybershot. The obverse photo makes the cent look a lot more "red" than it actually is. In-hand the two sides match much more closely. The reverse shot does give a fairly accurate representation of the color.

PCGS added the "BN" qualifier to the VF35 grade, as reported on their website. As far as I know any cent worn down to EF or lower should never be called RD or RB. Those color terms apply to the level of original mint luster that remains on a coin. A worn cent won't have any luster and can only be called "brown". Unless, of course, you have taken the Brasso and steel wool to it!
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I need to pick up a book on Lincolns and learn a lot more before I start trying to collect them. Thanks for the information. The whole Red v. Brown v. RB has always scared me off but it is such a great series, that I may have to reconsider. Buffalo nickels and WL Halves keep me more than occupied but collectors tend to have wandering eyes...
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Congratulations! In case you didn't already know,you've got a valuable key date with premier pedigree(PCGS)$1000 and climbing...

PS You're a better man than I am; I would have soaked it in olive oil before submitting to TPG
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