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The rim toning makes these difficult because I think the opinion is slightly biased towards your preference for toned or no tone. Anyways, take a shot   Edited by farrider11 03/27/2019 8:48 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11880 Posts |
64+. those 3 hits in the jaw keep it from gem. strong luster and strike.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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With that big hit on the cheek, I doubt it is better than MS-63
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Pillar of the Community
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614 Posts |
Do me a favor, purely out of curiosity, when you guess, please state your preference for toned or no tone coins, It's just a theory I'm testing, along with the assesment, should prove interesting. ;)
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11880 Posts |
I'm not guessing what PCGS said. I'm giving my opinion of the grade. I could care less what PCGS graded it.
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Pillar of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11880 Posts |
my preference is as follows: 1. attractive toning 2. no toning 3. unattractive toning toning often makes it difficult to see the surface of the coin, so it is more difficult to grade accurately.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'll say MS65. Prefer blast white myself, but attractive album toning is ok as well 
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Pillar of the Community
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5668 Posts |
MS-64. I like toned coins, but only if they are attractive.
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Valued Member
Canada
314 Posts |
PCGS probably graded this one MS-65. Personally the scratches on the cheek are a huge turnoff for me and I wouldn't pay more than 63 money for it. Agree with what NS said, and the timing on this one isn't bad, I kind of like it.
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Valued Member
 United States
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To me, a 63. No more than a 64 with the jaw dings. On toning, my preferences are evolving over time. Sometimes, I will see a coin with such eye-catchingly beautiful toning that I know I will never see another one like it. A real head turner. Invariably I come across these while looking for something else. These are the ones I want most. I'm not alone. Last week I bookmarked a David Lawrence listing for an MS64 1901 Barber dime. Not only was it exquisitely colored, but Liberty's face was actually pink flesh-toned. It had a 100%+ premium, so I believed I could think it over. Wrong. It's already gone. Then there's subtlety. I have a Seated dime (1884) with the most beautiful aquamarine tint. I have an 1857 Flying Eagle cent that looks white in bright light, but which has a warm, golden hue when the lights dim. Even an attractive patina can give a coin unique character. It's not easy to find really appealing true originals, but I have some that remind me of a fine woven suit that looks one color from a distance, but up close is really a multitude of different colored threads. I would choose a really special coin like those just described over the kind of blast white coin I used to prefer. Nowadays, when I see a lustrous blast white 19th Century coin that is not a Morgan, it just looks dipped. That doesn't mean I dislike the coin, only that there is nothing particularly special or unique about its personality. But eye appeal can be fleeting. Many toned coins can be double ugly. I don't like those at all.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7618 Posts |
Overall I think it's a nice 64.
As far as toning goes I am a colorful sunset kinda guy!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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MS64 the hits as already pointed out are probably worthy of a full point deduction. This was a nice MS65 with out the field chatter and hits, just the hits would've made MS64 IMO of course.
Toning?
I like it if it's lightly colored, not dark colors, I also like very satiny original white, I'd stay away from anything with spots, most of the molted (unless it's canvas mint bag or end roll patterned) splotchy toning too is no bueno for me. Rainbow or light pastel colors are best.
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Pillar of the Community
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614 Posts |
Good Morning, and thanks for participating. Here are the results. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Well congrats, but hey, please wait 48 hours to post results so the rest of us can pitch in! 
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