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Guess The Grade Of The New Acquisition 1880 S Morgan

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The rim toning makes these difficult because I think the opinion is slightly biased towards your preference for toned or no tone.

Anyways, take a shot

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64+. those 3 hits in the jaw keep it from gem. strong luster and strike.
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With that big hit on the cheek, I doubt it is better than MS-63
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Do me a favor, purely out of curiosity, when you guess, please state your preference for toned or no tone coins, It's just a theory I'm testing, along with the assesment, should prove interesting. ;)
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I'm not guessing what PCGS said. I'm giving my opinion of the grade. I could care less what PCGS graded it.
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Fair enough :)
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my preference is as follows:
1. attractive toning
2. no toning
3. unattractive toning
toning often makes it difficult to see the surface of the coin, so it is more difficult to grade accurately.
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I'll say MS65. Prefer blast white myself, but attractive album toning is ok as well
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MS-64. I like toned coins, but only if they are attractive.
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PCGS probably graded this one MS-65. Personally the scratches on the cheek are a huge turnoff for me and I wouldn't pay more than 63 money for it.
Agree with what NS said, and the timing on this one isn't bad, I kind of like it.
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To me, a 63. No more than a 64 with the jaw dings.
On toning, my preferences are evolving over time. Sometimes, I will see a coin with such eye-catchingly beautiful toning that I know I will never see another one like it. A real head turner. Invariably I come across these while looking for something else. These are the ones I want most. I'm not alone. Last week I bookmarked a David Lawrence listing for an MS64 1901 Barber dime. Not only was it exquisitely colored, but Liberty's face was actually pink flesh-toned. It had a 100%+ premium, so I believed I could think it over. Wrong. It's already gone.
Then there's subtlety. I have a Seated dime (1884) with the most beautiful aquamarine tint. I have an 1857 Flying Eagle cent that looks white in bright light, but which has a warm, golden hue when the lights dim. Even an attractive patina can give a coin unique character. It's not easy to find really appealing true originals, but I have some that remind me of a fine woven suit that looks one color from a distance, but up close is really a multitude of different colored threads.
I would choose a really special coin like those just described over the kind of blast white coin I used to prefer. Nowadays, when I see a lustrous blast white 19th Century coin that is not a Morgan, it just looks dipped. That doesn't mean I dislike the coin, only that there is nothing particularly special or unique about its personality.
But eye appeal can be fleeting. Many toned coins can be double ugly. I don't like those at all.
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Overall I think it's a nice 64.

As far as toning goes I am a colorful sunset kinda guy!
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MS64 the hits as already pointed out are probably worthy of a full point deduction. This was a nice MS65 with out the field chatter and hits, just the hits would've made MS64 IMO of course.

Toning?

I like it if it's lightly colored, not dark colors, I also like very satiny original white, I'd stay away from anything with spots, most of the molted (unless it's canvas mint bag or end roll patterned) splotchy toning too is no bueno for me. Rainbow or light pastel colors are best.
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Good Morning, and thanks for participating. Here are the results.

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Well congrats, but hey, please wait 48 hours to post results so the rest of us can pitch in!
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