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No question this is an RPD, I just don't know which one. Another thing - people who know can see by the shape of the bust, but I still get confused because I don't know the design very well...is this an 1864L? 
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I agree RPD. That 4 looks taller than the rest of the numbers. Is that common on this date? It looks like a rounded bust to me. The pointed bust is more pointy and the bust itself is thinner in width.
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Seems to be over the same date. Bust would be to more of a point on an L. Tough to actually see the L on the ribbon so usually the pointy bust is used as a diagnostic. That is what I have learned about them.
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Nice RPD! That's a rather large N displacement. You can see the distance by the bottom curves inside the lower loops of 86. Pulling out Rick Snow's attribution guide, this looks like a pointed bust "L"--I just think the point is worn down a bit. To my eyes, I'm seeing S4 1864/1864(n) 18/18/(s), described as "very scarce". There is no RPD listed that's even close for the no-L version.
Edited by KurtS 08/27/2008 12:21 pm
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Update: here's a closeup of an "1864 1C L On Ribbon MS65 Red PCGS. FS-006.72, Snow-4." taken from Heritage for comparison: 
Edited by KurtS 08/27/2008 12:53 pm
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Okay, so Kurt...thanks for the information so far - it's obvious that you know quite a bit more than I do about these. I grade the coin G-VG, and agree with your assessment of the die attribution. So what would that make something like this worth?
Thanks.
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BTW, I can see a small hump where the L should be, and with the right angle and a bit of imagination, the basic shape of the L comes out. I was thinking it was a pointed bust, but like with others here, was unsure because of the amount of wear.
BTW, I cherried this out of a dealer's box and bought it because of the bust, thinking it was probably an "L". It wasn't until I got it home and looked at it more closely that I even noticed it was an RPD, and here I am usually looking in the denticles for digit pieces...and didn't even notice this monster!
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Chuck, Thanks!  I suppose I have a good eye for details, but I mostly credit Rick Snow's attribution guides--they've been very educational. So if you got a "L" for a non-L price, that's a very good pickup!  In terms of added value, it seems the varieties get proportionally better money in higher grades. Here are a few prices realized for this variety at Heritage: 2005 XF40: $373.75 2006 MS65: $3450 You probably know better than me how the market has moved since then. In Rick Snow's guide, he values this variety at 2-3X premium over non-variety value. I'm never sure how that really translates into market value, since variety collectors are a subset. I guess that explains why I never pay for varieties, but only cherry-pick.
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I agree with Kurt on this one. It is Snow-4 1864 With "L". CherryPickers' Guide calls it FS#1 ˘-006.72 Have Fun, Bill
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