1984 LMC Seems To Match Need Feedback DDO-003

Of course

These forums sometime feel like the good ole boys club. Seems like unless your part of the club, you never get the nod, it's always MD or PSD or Die Deterioration then one of the "boys" post something that doesn't even look close to being the examples on the various websites and it's like "yes that's it, it's the best blah blah blah" funny environment for a public forum. They even lock a thread about errors and varieties in the errors and varieties forum

Well, the "good ole boys" know way more than us rookies. Keep searching. You'll know when you find something.

Cheers,

R2018

Those are much more common, plus I think people tend to be reserved with their opinions unless they are absolutely sure. Wouldn't want to get someone's hopes up.

I'm not seeing doubling on the obverse, though there is maybe something on the r and d in god we trust. If there is too much light the doubling might not show in the photo and in my opinion there in too much light in the close up of liberty.

This does look strange to me though.


Keep in mind this is all my opinion. You have the coin in hand and, ultimately, will have to be the one to decided what it is or isn't.

Thanks gincoin I absolutely hear what you're saying but the reason we come on here is to learn and get an explanation no just post count. But when one of the good old boys post something and it doesn't look anything like any of the variations on any of the websites or books why are they quick to say yep that's it? why are they not as reserved when it's them anybody can be wrong at any time?

Ok coop I fully understand all that, but you are saying that the letters in God don't look taller/wider? I can literally transpose them onto the attribution on variety Vista and it's exactly the same, so what gives

I felt that the same way when I started out a few years ago. When I first found the doubled stripe shield cents a lot of the "good ole boys" of the time dismissed it and completely disagreed. And when I got a few of them confirmed by Wexler, they still disagreed.

When it comes to varieties there is no absolute yes or no. There's disagreements and debates on numerous varieties. Some sites list a variety while others refuse to. Just look at the Roosevelt dime doubled lips, the 1992 Lincoln doubled eye, the 1968 Lincoln DDOs, etc. It's all based on a single person's understanding of the hubbing process, Die Deterioration, the design among other things.

For many people this understanding comes from years of research and searching through coins. After many years I've noticed a lot of subtle differences in the design from year to year and how some minor imperfections like on your coin are more likely to occur in some years rather than others.

On your coin there is a noticeable Ridge Ring (a form of Die Deterioration very common on 1980s zinc cents) which is making the parts of the letters towards the rim thinner than usual. So the bottoms of the letters look thicker compared to the unusually thin tops. The word IN is noticeably weak and nearly gone, this same weakness is also affecting GOD to a lesser degree. This could be circulation wear, a weak strike, a grease strike, or a combination of those three.
Die Deterioration and circulation wear.

Sorry our responses may seem very dismissive on occasion but it is incredibly time consuming to type out a thorough response like this. I usually just say whether I agree or disagree with the OP, my evidence, and if I disagree what I actually think it is. If you ever want a further explanation, ask please!

P.S. I see even the most experienced variety collectors get stuff wrong on occasion. I'm not perfect either. Don't be afraid to disagree with anyone, make your own opinions, do your own research, gather your own evidence, or question someone else's opinion.