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This uncertified 1916 Standing Liberty quarter sold for $4,600 on ebay today. I came across it just a few minutes before it ended. The seller's photos are not overly clear, but I have some questions about the authenticity of this coin. I am certainly no expert, and may be wrong about it, but am trying to learn to authenticate coins and have looked at the diagnostics of an authentic 1916. I have several questions about this piece. The "6" in the date looks strangely shaped. The drapery on the right arm seems to hand lower than it should on a 1916. The shield looks much better struck than you would expect on a 1916 with this amount of wear. The photos aren't clear enough for me to be able to make an assessment on the hair. I would appreciate the thoughts and comments from other CCF members on this coin. Thanks. Here is the link to the auction: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-19...xUJ7PFk%253D  Paul Bulgerin
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Pillar of the Community
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The pictures are pretty bad but all of the diagnostics I know to look for makes it seem like a 1917 that's been altered and not a genuine 1916.
Can't imagine why anyone would bid thousands on an uncertified rarity with bad pictures!
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Edited by dave700x
09/16/2019 1:48 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks counterfeit/altered to me. Date doesn't look right at all. Surfaces appear to be very porous.
The purchaser is going to be in for a rude awakening when either one of these two things happen: 1) he tries to sell it to a knowledgeable collector or dealer; or 2) he sends it off for 3rd party grading.
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United States
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It looks like it was previously sold for $4550 in August. He has a return policy so I am thinking the original purchaser sent it back or it is a shill bidder. If not shill bidding then WOW! 2 different auctions fooled that many bidders!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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100% fake if you know what to look for
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Paul - Thanks for the pics and info.
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Pillar of the Community
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I didn't even think of checking the weight!
Paul Bulgerin
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Forum Dad
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Rest in Peace
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Hope you could stop the transaction, Bobby. Thanks for being a great watch dog.
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Bedrock of the Community
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No sane and serious collector of a $thousand dollar plus U.S. coin would buy a raw 1916 SLQ in any condition, on ebay. Such a coin would need to independently verified by a professional before making a decision to bid. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Amazing that people would put out that kind of money and not know what they are buying.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That really doesn't look right. It's doesn't match any of the diagnostics I would use. I hope the buyer catches the problems before they lose that much money. I wouldn't spend a $46 dollars, let alone $4600 on a coin that looked like that without some sort of certification or 100% money back promise WHEN it proves to be an altered or forged coin. I tried to look at the ebay listing but the link above doesn't lead anywhere. Has the listing been removed? ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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Has the listing been removed? Yes. |
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Posted 09/16/2019 1:47 pm
