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Ike VAM's & Varieties Question

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 Posted 09/18/2008  11:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jerryb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi y'all.....

Having been a coin dealer for over 54 years I had the pleasure of dispersing of an estate from a non-coin collector. Estate had approx $35K in 18K & 14K jewelry, several bags of 90% & 40% silver, etc etc. They were not collectors ... just horders. Estate was approx $120K total in value.

I kept, because I got them at $1.05 each about 7-800 non-silver Ike dollars ranging from VG to BU. Mostly xf/au that these people just put up everytime they got one in change.

Question? Is there a site listing the most popular VAMS and oddities to look for that also lists approx values. Not just the TY1 and TY2 76'ers. I'm referring to DDO, DDR, overdates, etc etc. I have Breens book that lists some but that book hasn't been updated since Walter died. (By the way, I met Walter years ago at a Coin Show in Detroit - Before all his personal problems surfaced.)

Anyway, just need a direction to be pointed before I dispose of them.

Thank you all in advance.
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 Posted 09/18/2008  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is no such thing as an "Ike VAM", VAMs are die varieties of Morgan and Peace dollars, nothing else. CONECA has some RPM and doubled die listings but no pictures. There are no overdates for the Eisenhower series or any other modern coin series for that matter.The Authoritative Reference on Eisenhower Dollars is probably your best bet for a book, it was just published last year. I do not have the book so I cannot comment on the contents but there are a few Ike fans on the forum who would probably have it.
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 Posted 09/20/2008  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Biokemist6......

Maybe I mis-wrote the message. I know VAM's are for Morgans, etc. I meant something similar for the Ikes and other coin varieties.

Sidenote: I see in latest Coin World (front page) a new find. A 1971-S Proof Ike that may be a prototype or pattern that exhibits elements of a circulation strike. Only 1 PR64 graded by ANACS as a prototype. Do I hear everyone rushing to their Ike box?

peace...jerryb
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 Posted 09/22/2008  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Southern Yankee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Jerry, I recently stumbled on a site that might be of some help. It seems to be a work in progress. http://www.ikegroup.org/. I haven't been able to get into the forum and just skimmed the sight. Has some good info on some varieties.

The book biokemist quoted is a good book. I'd have to pull it out to be sure, but I think it has about 120 different doubled dies listed. I believe there was only one rpm and it is a tough one to spot. Very minuscule. 1974s cn proof. The book also lists prices but I don't know how accurate they are. The book was somewhere around 30.00. Very good book. It lists die changes and some other varieties. Hope it helps some.
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I recently stumbled on a site that might be of some help. It seems to be a work in progress. http://www.ikegroup.org/
Bookmarked! Thanks!
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Just a side note here: Biokemist, isn't the Jefferson nickel a modern coin series? How about the 1943/2 P?
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The 1918/7-D Buffalo nickel, 1943/2-P Jefferson nickel, 1942/1-P and 1942/1-D Mercury dimes, and 1918/7-S Standing Liberty quarter are technically all doubled dies hubbed with two hubs of differing dates. Overdates occur when dates are hand punched into the die, a practice that was not continued with 20th century issues. Many overdates exist in 19th century coinage, especially Bust halves.
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 Posted 09/23/2008  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Southern Yankee.....bookmarked for future reference.
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Overdates occur when dates are hand punched into the die, a practice that was not continued with 20th century issues.

1901/0-S half eagle. I think it may be the only true 20th century overdate. (I believe there may e some controversy though over whether is is really an overdate or just the result of a defective 1901 date punch.)
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Thanks everyone for the clarification; I've learned something new!
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