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1945 S Jefferson Nickel. Question On Obverse Date Area

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This 1945 S is a nice looking coin. Nice luster. Decent shape. Not worth a hill of beans but just curious what that smudge/defect is near Date? Cud from mint? Maybe one of those Cloth hits, where a piece of cloth got in between planchet and Die? But not enough pattern for that maybe. Anyway...thx for input.


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Looks like Struck Through Grease.Please use the Glossary to see what a Cud is,left side of page.
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Quote:
Not worth a hill of beans


Silver War Nickels should have a premium over face value though. I agree with @john1 most likely struck through some gre ASE
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CUD: An area of a coin struck by a die that has a complete break across part of its surface. A Cud may be either a Retained Cud, where the faulty piece of the die is still in place, or a full Cud, where the piece of the die has fallen away. Retained Cuds usually have detail if on the edge, while full Cuds do not.

Got it John1. I knew a Cud was something like that, such as the side of the coin that looks like it has extra metal, etc., but thought this could have been one. However, it does not fit the description.

Struck Thru: An error caused by a foreign object that got between the dies and the planchet when a coin was struck. A common Struck through error is a piece of wire that leaves an indentation that is usually mistaken for a scratch.

So grease possibly in this case. Makes sense. I have heard of that but did not come to mind when trying to figure what it was. But got it now.

SPENCE....poor choice of words on my part. All coins have value, and this War Nickel is no exception. It's actually a nice looking nickel. Has that silver luster and very bright. Pictures as usual do it no justice. Some wear but just looking at it in hand it really is nice for a 1945 S. Have not seen too many War Nickels floating around in this condition these days. I guess I was just thinking not worth grading as the value would not be cost effective. Yea...I'll stick to that excuse. lol but it is a keeper.

Appreciate the continued candor from all.
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With the rough texture, the grease may also of had some grit in it, leaving the surface rough looking.
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Look closely at the mint mark...might be a rpm, if I'm seeing it right
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Greasy...here are a few pictures blown up a bit, and from a couple of scopes. Just to see if it supports your question.

The 'S' was too big to get in full view with a detailed shot. So I did it in pieces, which confuses the orientation a bit. But hey, it's just to see if it lends any support to your observation.

The scope pictures go in order from the bottom of the 'S', to the top portion (last picture another angle of top curve).

What's odd, is it looks like it was cut off towards top curve, flattened out (see very shallow outline), and then the tail end comes back, but mangled.

Just strange how the naked eye view you can see some of that, but it's very prominent in the close ups. Anyway, not a national issue. lol Just there to hopefully help in that observation. Ok...


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It doesn't look like a RPM. A RPM would be raised. I'm not seeing that on this nickel. But it is a silver coin. So it's worth more than face.
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