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What Could Cause Extreme Shades Of Aqua Blue And Violet On George VI Cent?

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I got this from my LCS's foreign coin bin a while back. Figuring it's well past ruined as far as being taboo to clean, I did rub a little spot with an acetone-dipped q-tip, to see which was on the surface; the blue/violet or the brown. The brown gave way to blue underneath, and the blue didn't budge. So I don't think it's paint, unless it's some kind impervious to acetone. Did this likely occur from being in a fire or something?

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Hmm. I have seen some Canada Small Cents tone some strange colors before, but never this vibrant of a blue. Having said that the toning on the obverse looks even. Making the field and devices look nicely covered. However the reverse looks to be just the opposite to me. The toning looks blotchy and unnatural. I am up in the air as to whether this is NT or AT due to this.
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Looks like environmental damage and improper cleaning to me.
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What kind of environmental damage?
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Heat could do it. As an experiment, I have put copper coins on a stove and you can get some amazingly vivid colours.
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Copper can take on almost any color of the rainbow under the right circumstances.
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my guess is just the right amount of exposure some mild cleaner...
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more than likely , it was painted at one time.
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Chemical exposure, environmental damage and/or heat does funny things to copper.
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fountain coin
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Okay, so it could be toning but basically nobody knows or could know. Thanks yall!
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Reverse is super cool looking
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Hello: I had a few older Canadian pennies that sat in a vinyl folder for 25+ years turn blue like this. Could be a chemical reaction between the plastic and the copper. In fact, looking through my book I have a 1946 penny that has deep blue/violet toning on the maple leafs.
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Ooo, any chance you could snap and upload a few shots of it? I would love to see one in better shape than mine.
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I had a few older Canadian pennies that sat in a vinyl folder for 25+ years turn blue like this. Could be a chemical reaction between the plastic and the copper. In fact, looking through my book I have a 1946 penny that has deep blue/violet toning on the maple leafs.


This was my first thought when I saw the obverse. I have seen some Canadian Small cents tone violets and even deep purples if you leave em in books long enough. This could be just an early stage of this.

Here is one from my collection that I am pretty sure stayed in a folder for decades.
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Given the right circumstances of concentration, temperature and exposure,
detergent is capable of achieving the result seen here.

Copper sulfate is blue in color.
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