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Washington Quarter "Pierced Neck" Error Or Have I Been Scammed?

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 Posted 10/28/2008  2:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add plintner to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I bought this quarter on ebay. Questioning whether really die error or just scratched. Would appreciate any opinions since I am a newbie at collecting. Thanks.

Sorry - wasn't very explanatory - the error is supposed to be the line through the neck and was advertised as "Pierced Neck."

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10/28/2008 2:29 pm
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 Posted 10/28/2008  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
cant really tell from the pictures, is the area raised or indented into the coin?
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 Posted 10/28/2008  2:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add plintner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't tell if raised or indented. It looks like a scratch to me. I only have a 10x loupe. Just ordered a 30x.
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 Posted 10/28/2008  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A 10x loupe should be more than enough magnification to see whether it is raised or depressed
I see that is the same pic as the auction. I would never have attempted to purchase an "error" from an auction with a picture of that low quality. A seller can give a coin all the little cutesy names they want, but that still does not make it an error. Every little ding, scratch, and crack does not add vale to modern coins just because the mintages are so high that these little glitches in the minting process are not considered to be true collectible errors.
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 Posted 10/28/2008  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add plintner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thank you very much for replying. I can see the line when I hold coin up horizontally and trying to look across the surface. One second I think it looks raised and the next not. I can't see where it goes all the way to the edge but it does appear to go under the edge of the "U" and then ends between the "Q" and "U." Does that tell you anything? Thanks for the info. I have seen so many "errors" in these new coins on ebay that I see what you mean.
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 Posted 10/28/2008  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A few things.

1. Nobody can tell you whether you spent too much money on the coin without knowing how much you spent on it. If it was more than a couple of dollars, you spent too much.

2. If you have light above you and you're looking at the coin with a loupe, if the lighted part of the mark is on the top, it stands out from the surface of the coin. If the lighted part is on the bottom, it's a scratch.

3. I agree with Biokemist that it's a bad idea to spend money on coins where people don't take decent photos to show you what you're getting.

4. I furthermore disagree with learning about coins by spending money on coins you don't know anything about. Your first stop with your wallet should be books, then spend some free time going through change and coming to boards like this one. Just spending and hoping isn't going to teach you anything and leaves you very vulnerable to being had.
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 Posted 10/28/2008  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add plintner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the good advice. I know you are right and I am looking to learn before blowing more money unwisely. I am embarrassed to say but spent $35.00 on this quarter. I can't tell for sure about what you mean about light on top or below, but since I am having such a difficult time seeing a raised line I would guess it is just a scratch. Seller advertises money back so maybe I'll ask for refund and if denied I'll chalk it up to a learning experience. Thanks again for the great advice.
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plintner to the forum.
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 Posted 10/28/2008  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd send it back. Even if it's a die crack it's not worth the $35 you spent. Don't feel too bad about it if you don't get a refund. I'm sure everyone here could tell at least one story that was similar, I know I could.
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 Posted 10/28/2008  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add plintner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, that's what I figure - long as I learned from it. Thanks for the welcome Rock. Glad I joined. Y'all have been very helpful. Hey - anybody looking for error coins I can tell you where to look for a deal - LOL.
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 Posted 10/28/2008  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coindexter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
plintner
If your wanting a nice error coin I suggest just going to your local bank and spending $35 on some rolled up coins. Chances are you will find one before your quarter from e-bay arrives in the mail.
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 Posted 10/28/2008  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Stick around for a while, you will pick up an education here
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10/28/2008 4:43 pm
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 Posted 10/28/2008  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome Plintner!

As long as you have the coin there, as a learning experiment, why not take some quarters from your pocket change and get a very fine straight pin and make some scratches on the pocket coin from lightest possible to deep ones and compare with the "error" coin under your loupe. I rather suspect the line is raised, but it would be interesting to see.

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 Posted 10/28/2008  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I find it odd that 4 of these were sold as there are two high bidders, one bought 3 and the other bought 1.
The seller has good feedback, so I don't think he would take the time to scratch 4 quarters in the exact same way to sell 4 in a "dutch" auction.
I would guess it is probably a scratched die and that's all. Ever since the Bison nickel got speared there has been a boom in this category of "errors". Woo Hoo!
I guess a coin is worth what ever a person is willing to pay for it applies here.
The seller also does guarantee his sales
says AS USUAL- REFUND IF NOT PLEASED
Welcome plintner! Good to have you as a member of the community!
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10/28/2008 5:38 pm
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 Posted 10/28/2008  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you are not sure, see if you can return it.
Better safe than sorry.

By the way, how much did it cost?
Is it worth the trouble to return it?
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What a great idea. I will do that. So if the line is raised that means it's a die crack and not a scratch? Just heard back from Seller. He said they've sent one to Numismatic News and it will be in an article, but will give me refund if I want. Guess I'll be checking out Numismatic News.
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