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1889 Indian Head Cent Should It Grade Straight Or Details?

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Hi all,

I picked up this coin from ebay before I post its grade, what do you think? Details or straight grade?
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Details (environmental damage) for sure.
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Details , looks like 2 small corrosion spots obverse & reverse and a stain on feathers .
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 Posted 04/23/2020  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also tell us what slab it is in please.
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Also tell us what slab it is in please.


John, I'll post the slab. I promise in 48 hours.
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Details corrosion
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I see your building your slab collection.......EF-Details
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I see your building your slab collection...


Sadly since I can't get out to the coin shop, I've only had ebay and I don't like to get what I can't exam myself, so I assumed a slabbed coin would have an impartial and accurate grade, but I could be wrong

But honestly most have been very reasonable, close or even less than what a RAW coin would cost. If you notice majority of my slabbed coins are IHC. I am running out of good price IHC on ebay, may have to do a clandestine drive to the local coin shop
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There's no way NGC straight graded this...
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There's no way NGC straight graded this...


Want to bet a coin or 2?
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Any more guesses on whether this graded straight or details?
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I already know the answer but my lips are sealed !
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Yep, I know the answer as well.
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It's sure a nice one, except for the ED. The reverse wouldn't bother me, but the obverse damage is permanent. The damage hurts eye appeal on this coin. Regardless of the TPG's opinion, the ED would be taken into consideration as an eye appeal price adjustment in a transaction. JMHO.
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"Details" environmental damage.
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Ok time to post!

And the coin graded

STRAIGHT?




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NOW before you because I picked up a fake details coin, I actually believed the grade was good until I got the coin.

I checked both the pictures the seller had and on NGC. On NGC the coin looked dark and with a small spot, but because the picture was bad I assumed the spot was on the slab. The sellers picture had 0 verdigris. I mean 0. So I assume either some editing? or just a weird angle.

Since I was buying based on a grade, I offered a lower price than what the seller was asking and he took it.

When I got the coin I was

I was tempted to file a claim with NGC as the grade is wrong, but NGC charges $20 to do an appearance review and considering what I paid for the coin, it wasn't worth it.

So I just returned it.

Seller refunded my money as was totally great about the return. So overall the seller did everything to keep me happy, but this coin should have been documented better.

So this was a case of buying the slab and not the coin and boy was that wrong.
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