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Help Grading This 1923 Peace Dollar.

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I thank all you who answered my post and I appreciate the help

Can you give me your opinions on my coin I am having a hard time getting a idea on grade. I am not trying to sell it or anything just info on it. Like value , grade, rarity and any errors if you can see them thank you
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Based on your more closeup shots, the coin has some difficulties going on with it.

Has luster, but lots of not so pleasing marks as well.

MS62, need better photos to give it a full hearted grade.
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First: too many photos
Second: too much glare,you need to put a filter on your light source
Third: nice strike MS63?
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Huh wasn't sure if there were multiple photos of different Peace dollars or a bunch of the same.
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Darn ok you know it doesn't matter what I do lol too many photos, not enough photos, to dark, to much light, wrong color light and I'm not ing I just wish I could take better pictures I have a iPhone 11 but this camera sucks it's fine if I'm far away but zoom in and it's all blurry and really a misrepresentation of my coins that's why I put as many as possible to give every visitor the best angle to get the best idea I appreciate your guys feedback keep it coming I have some interesting coins coming up and check out my paper currency and again I collect I'm not looking to make money but I still would like to know the whole spectrum of the coin value, grade, rarity, collectors value etc what ever input you got I want!
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You can buy a clip on magnifier for your phone for cheap or a usb microscope for not all that much either. Either way you will fight with the lighting. Check out our photo section for tips and ideas to help you. Practise XtimesX 10
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Wait isn't the iPhone 11 supposed to be "famous" for "the best phone camera yet?"

I really don't like Apple products, or trust the company. Hugely overcharging, along with committing a big scam a couple years.

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Yeah this phone sucks I hate apple my wife made me buy it and I have had nothing but problems the lighting I have adjusted and changed 100 times zoomed in and out the same changed the setting everything it litterally takes me almost an hour to make a post because of the pictures I don't shake but it seems like I do while trying to take a picture and and I've even used items to stable my arms but even the littlest movement seems to throw the focus completely out of wack. I feel like I could either draw a picture or explain it in detail better and faster. In short apple lies the camera may be good for something but up close small shiny things it is worthless and aggravating to try and see errors. I end up going to a Manuel magnifying glass. Yeah so don't get one if you enjoy pictures
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I'm looking into the usb one I'm trying to find one local but looks like I need to just order online. Should have done it before but my last phone I could use the magnify app and get stellar photos on well
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Fair enough. I've always had issues with trying to take closeups of coins with my phone, no matter which phone it is.

I use this: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Plugable...ion/47408841


Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Mic...75410&sr=8-4

It's pretty good, has some lighting problems though, but for a $40 microscope that's to be expected.
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On the matter of the dollar, I'm seeing MS60 at best--possible AU58.
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First couple pics of the reverse looks cleaned. Later pics don't. Maybe a low MS strike. But for me, too much going on with the cheek and around the date. I think it would be a details grade. '23 Peace dollars are pretty common. And easy to find in similar to higher grade. If it is a details coin, not much value here.
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I'll say MS-62. Confusing pics for sure.
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Here is a great thread by Darth Morgan about using an inexpensive way of using an iPhone for taking some amazing coin pics.
http://goccf.com/t/160092

Go through it to see how he made it even more simple as time went on.

I improvised by buying three 6.00 LED desk lamps from Walmart. I positioned them around the coin. My device for positioning the camera was a stack of books.

Don;t zoom the camera in before taking the picture as this can introduce the blurriness. Zoom in on the picture itself to crop it.

Here is a typical pic taken with this simple set up:
http://goccf.com/t/318348

I was only after nice looking pics - not perfection, and the pics on this thread only took the time to stack the books, place the lamps, and snap the pic on a white backdrop. I am not a photographer of coins - but this sure works for me. Oh...I still use an iPhone 4S for the pics. I have to wonder what your new iPhone would do.

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MS-62 at best. The coin looked AU in some of the photos.
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Its hard to tell based on the photos but its just a common Peace dollar. I would say AU58-MS60. Based on the watermarks/milk spots. There are also dings throughout the coin. There is high point wear on the obverse and I don't see circulation wear on the reverse. It looks like that coin may have been stored lower in the money bag. There isn't much mint luster. The reverse is better than the obverse. Probably AU 58 Obverse, MS 62 Reverse, net MS60. Sadly the dings and spots keep it low on the grading scale. As far as value, if I was buying it, I would pay $17/$18. It's pretty much bullion with a little numismatic value.
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